hello,
They could also just redesign it or something, not necessarily
something for VI's only.
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From: "'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone" <[email protected]
To: [email protected]
Date sent: Mon, 2 May 2016 18:19:04 +0100
Subject: Re: iTunes for windows and screen readers
Hi all,
I wonder, seriously, if it's time to talk with Apple about this.
We almost all hate iTunes with a passion, ... and it's not
surprising!
It's really unfair that VI's should have to put up with this all
the
time ... It's so bad that Apple should let such a standard exist
for
those of us who really need iTunes to be straightforward, work
flawlessly out of the box, have minimal changes made and ...
heaps more!
We could all write to Accessability but, before we do, can some
of those
who are knowledgeable perhaps give us all the things that don't
currently work or were broken with iOS 9? Then we could write
individually, perhaps.
Does anyone know if there are strong enough feelings within
Applevis for
those who are obviously probably more clued up than the average
iTunes
VI user about the problems and would back us in a meaningful way?
If anyone feels they could draft anything appropriate for us to
tweak
then that may also be worth it before sending, so that we don't
all say
exactly the same thing!
Perhaps they should be encouraged to write an app specially for
us that
really works, that can only be used with an I device which is
obviously
running VoiceOver (so could be detected). Yes, OK,
theoretically, others
could turn on VO just to use the programme, and I guess some
would as
many sighted people hate it - but maybe there are other
safeguards Apple
could write into the programme, perhaps even being prepared to
give us a
special ID code.
Well, I've opened a can of worms here and please remember these
are just
thoughts off the top of my head ... so let's keep this thread
going awhile!
Carol P - Who hates iTunes with a passion and uses as little as
she can
get away with!
Carol P
On 29/04/2016 06:30, Gordan Radic wrote:
Yes, I agree, iTunes for Windows is a pain.
I really can't comprehend why this app is so complicated. It
could be
as useful as it is with much, much more simpler interface but
Apple
keeps it up complicated. There's also a problem with interface
changes
on every major version update.
I can do basic things such as syncing ringtones and multimedia,
backup
and restore but browsing the App Store or use a file sharing
feature
is driving me crazy.
And, iCloud Drive for Windows can't be used if you don't have
sighted
assistance for the initial setup...
Bad job, Apple!
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29.4.2016. u 3:15, Richard Turner je napisao/la:
As a Window-Eyes user, I'd like to say that this is true, and in
some ways it is.
However, the real truth, in my opinion, is that Apple makes it
very hard for Windows based screen readers to work well with
iTunes.
From what I have heard from JAWS and NVDA users, is that
some'things work fine with those screen readers and some things
don't.
That is true with Window-Eyes as well.
It really depends on how much one uses iTunes and what aspects
the person uses the most as to which screen reader might perform
the best.
No matter which screen reader you use, the bottom line is you
need to know how to use it's advanced features if you are going
to get anywhere with the Windows version of iTunes.
GW Micro was the first ones to really work with Apple to make
iTunes accessible. But the later versions of iTunes have made
everything more complicated.
Richard
"The problem with people who have no vices is that generally
you can be pretty sure they're going to have some pretty annoying
virtues."
Elizabeth Taylor
(Sent from my iPhone 5S)
On Apr 28, 2016, at 2:37 PM, Mary Otten<[email protected]>
wrote:
I have never used iTunes for windows, because I have a Mac.
However, if friend of mine was just told by an Apple
accessibility senior representative that window eyes works with
iTunes for windows and is the only screen reader which Apple says
does that. I know that a few years ago, and it literally has
been years, GW micro had been touting this fact. But I know a
lot of changes have happened with both window eyes and iTunes
since then I suspect that this is the case of apple not keeping
their propaganda, I mean their publication, up-to-date. So for
you who use Windows version of iTunes and screen readers two
questions. One, Is it true, WE users, that iTunes works
perfectly well with the latest version of window eyes? And two,
what about other screen readers? Do any work well?
Mary
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