I can see how they might have their uses, but I think for the time being I will stick to my central vac system which I find is quite convenient. Something like that latest Roomba model here in Canada is around $1,200 and I definitely have other projects for which I can use this much money. When I had my central vac system installed a few years ago it came to I think around $900 ($700 for the machine itself and around $200 for installation). This system is extremely strong, the vacuum itself is downstairs in my utility room so you can not even hear it, it works for months without me emptying the can/cleaning the filters and when I want to vacuum I just grab the hose, connect it to the in-wall outlet and press the switch on the floor sweeper. I am also planning to install a baseboard port in the kitchen which allows me to do a quick sweep with a regular broom, pile up the dirt in front of the port, then as soon as I open it the vacuum comes on and I just give the dirt a final sweep to push it under the port and it all gets sucked up.
Regards, Sieghard From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] Sent: Monday, May 30, 2016 9:28 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Roomba 980 with an app! Sieghard, I can see you are wavering here!? Just to explain a little more: Re falling downstairs, I cannot speak for the Neato vacs, as I haven't seen one, but all of the Roombas have been equipped with a drop off sensor. I would like one on the toe of my shoes!! I have, just about never had a Roomba hurl itself downstairs. Usually, when they approach a drop off, they just swerve away. Sometimes, if they get distracted by something (who knows what goes on in the head of a vacuum cleaner?) they go too close to the drop and perch, precariously, with one wheel off, bleeting, sulkily, to the world in general, looking for a helping hand. Remember, I am speaking of older models, even my latest one is about 6 years old. I imagine they are even more relyable nowadays. Roombas talk! Unfortunately, mine is stuck in Bulgarian! This was my own fault, but it did lead to a sudden and dramatic growth in my linguistic skills. As I said, we do retain corded vacs as well. I think it fair to say that if you are very fussy, and I did use to be, you might want to give the house a go over, every 1/3 months. And yoou can't do stairs with the robots. Because I have both been researching the latest Roomba/Neato with a view to purchasing and, at the same time, looking for maintenance tips for my old one, I see, from the various fora that people do buy and try, taking advantage of the "cooling off" return option. I don't know anything about that though.When I got my last Guide Dog, here in Ireland, I was so smitten with my first Roomba, which I had had for a few years, that I persuaded the Guide Dog Centre to approach IRobot, who make the Roomba for a freeby, with fthe idea that students might have the chance to watch it in action, and I know that some bought them on the strenth of that introduction. For anyone considering looking further into these Bots, I can only say it is worth a deal of research. They have different strenths and the latest and greatest is not always the best.Lastly, comparing a robot vac with a generic corded one is a bit specious. They do the work for you! They may miss bits sometimes, but not as much as I do when manually vacuuming. They can do it when you are out! The are usable by people with other issues of a more physical nature. In theory, someone who is bed-ridden could keep their independence re the state of their floors. And, isn't this the beginning of the robot era! Well, these are my thoughts, Happy pondering! Sandy sent from the dark side of the moon On 30 May 2016, at 16:21, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca<mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote: If they offered an unconditional 30-day money back guaranty (no questions asked) I would maybe give one of these things a try. Apart from that I would share Gordan’s concern about how well something this small works. I have no carpets in my house any more, all hardwood (living room and hallway), tile (kitchen and bathroom) and cork (bedrooms) but when I see how much doghair my heavy-duty central vac sucks up I am just not sure one of these robots could handle it. I guess Sandy is right that the trick would be to let it do its thing every day and that way there wouldn’t be as much, but I’d still like the opportunity to try it with the option to send it back for a full refund if I don’t think it does the trick in terms of cleaning well, getting all spots, going from living room into the kitchen, the bedroom, getting stuck in a corner, not falling down the stairs etc. Regards, Sieghard From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] Sent: Monday, May 30, 2016 2:08 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Roomba 980 with an app! Hi Gordon and all who have been talking/asking about these useful toys, Gordon, when you say that the battery powered hoovers are not as powerful as the corded ones, you are, of course right, but there is a caveat: because you have the pleasure of not having to actually do the hoovering yourself, you tend to do it more often and, in this way, the overall effect is superior!!! I have a house with tiled, wooden, and carpeted floors. The Roombas that I have had since about 2003, have all done sterling work! We have always had dogs, even so, my floors have been the envy of my friends! Don't I sound sad?.... Seriously, I have left the house with a friend, off to enjoy ourselves about town, and she has said to me "What is that sound? Have you left something on?" 'Tis my little friend, the robot vacuum cleaner, he is doing the floors while I am out." I cannot describe the astonished jealousy! For, not only the blind find hoovering a bit of a chore, most people do too, especially living here, in rural Ireland, where every muddy boot/paw bears testimony to the great outdoors! I can only say that if your only arguement against these robots is that of power and therefor efficiency, my house disproves it! As for loudness, someone asked about: it is quieter on some surfaces than others, but, in general, I would say it is much much less noisy than our Milfisk (if that is how you spell it) We do have ordinary vacs as well, but when the Roomba is working, they don't get used, except for stairs and ceiling corners. If you have children, who might be messy, leaving toys etc around the floor, I would think twice about purchasing one of these as these objects will slow up the efficiency of the robot, but this applies to using a normal vac anyway, especially, when one doesn't see them and sucks them up. For anyone interested, and, keeping this on topic, there are, as far as I know, 2 main competitors for the "best" slot, both of which can work with apps. The Roomba 980 (very expensive) and the Neatorobot VacBot connected (a couple of hundred cheaper) I am going to investigate both while trying to resuscitate my old one! Sandy. sent from the dark side of the moon On 30 May 2016, at 07:55, Gordan Radić <razbij...@gmail.com<mailto:razbij...@gmail.com>> wrote: Hi! Frankly, I don't think robotic vacuum cleaners are better than the usual ones. First thing you need consider when purchasing the vacuum cleaner is it's strength in wats. Stronger it is the cleaning process is better because it better sucks the dirt. Robotic cleaners work on battery and you can't get the same strength with it as the machines plugged into wall outlet. So, true, it will probably clean the floor better than a blind person hitting all the spots and corners but it won't do it like a nice old fashioned cleaner. And this is not my philosophy, this I've been told by Vorewerk representative while we talked about their new robotic model. S poštovanjem Gordan Radić<mailto://gordan.ra...@gmail.com> <nemoviz_animated.gif><http://www.nemoviz.org> <email.png><mailto://i...@nemoviz.org> <facebook.png><http://www.facebook.com/nemoviz> <twitter.png><http://www.twitter.com/nemoviz2014> 30.5.2016. u 3:17, Brent Harding je napisao/la: What makes these special compared to the cheaper ones before? I could see the utility in having a robotic vacuum because there's always those little spots one might miss around something, and I'd imagine it can do a better job than many of us. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Logan" <pdlloga...@gmail.com><mailto:pdlloga...@gmail.com> To: <viphone@googlegroups.com><mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Sent: Saturday, May 28, 2016 2:27 PM Subject: Re: Roomba 980 with an app! Ok, my unit arrived a couple of hours ago. Setting it up was quite easy. There are a couple of really good unboxing videos on You Tube that might help. The app has a few places where things aren't labelled the best, but you should be able to figure it out. The basic things are all accessible... Fired Mr. Roboto up...you can name the unit .. And he took off. Did a pretty decent job ... My suggestion is to make sure you buy it from a place that will allow you to return. With spending almost $1K, you want to make sure it does all that you expect. Sent from my iPhone On May 27, 2016, at 6:15 AM, 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone <viphone@googlegroups.com><mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> wrote: Hallo There! OK, so I am in the market for a new robot vacuum cleaner. The latest, from iRobot's Roomba range, is the 980 and it comes with an app! I want to know how accessible it is. I downloaded the app, and it looks OK, but, because I haven't, as yet, got the machine, needing to know if it will work for me with the app, I can't tell if it is usable with VO. So, my question is: does anyone have experience of the app and running the 980 Roomba. Now, before you all shout at me for profligacy, I know it costs an arm and a leg! I can only say that I have been seduced by the hype! I have long term experience of the Roombas and love them! This new one, not only has an app which should help with error analysis, but will allow me to start the thing off from anywhere and, it says, it will do the whole of one level of my house, going back to the charger for a refuel session and then continue where it left off. Anyway, I am almost convinced, but, with such a large outlay, just need to know about the accessibility. Can you help? Sandy sent from the dark side of the moon -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. 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