>From the articles I’ve read on Autonomously Controlled Vehicles (ACVs) the 
>technology literally driving such vehicles is far, far more complex than that 
>on board a household vacuum cleaner. I had been reading several articles on 
>DARPA’s specs for the ACVs and seems to me there was a minimum of nine 
>separate computer systems on board these; a system for various aspects of 
>navigation, transport control and accident avoidance.  If these Roombas or any 
>similar vacuum cleaner deployed such complicated technology I seriously doubt 
>any of us on this list would be able to buy one!
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Bill Gallik
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> On Jun 1, 2016, at 4:12 AM, 'RobH.' via VIPhone <viphone@googlegroups.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> Hahahahahahaha, and this is the technology they want to fit in the current 
> rash of robot cars!
> 
> But I hope those have an accessible app, too.
> 
> Wonder if they could test some of this technology on those little electric 
> scooters that are getting all the rage.
> 
> BobH.
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> To: <viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2016 12:06 AM
> Subject: Re: Roomba 980 with an app!
> 
> 
> Getting rid of carpets also helps to call about allergies, as well as chronic 
> dry eye syndrome, which I have quite badly.
> My husband and I currently own a Bob Sweep robot vacuum, and it needs quite a 
> bit of babying. What I mean is that it often gets 
> stuck in areas, such as underneath the edges of cupboards, under our couch, 
> or it bumps up against something, and thinks that 
> there's something stuck between it's bumper thing on the front and the back 
> you, which can cause problems. Also, it gets a lot of 
> hair stuck in the brush, and when that happens, it freaks out. Needless to 
> say, we are not super impressed. Oh, sure, it cleans 
> rather well, but I couldn't just go out for a few hours and have it vacuum 
> and be confident that it wouldn't get stuck somewhere 
> along the process. And this happens more than once per cleaning. This is also 
> supposed to be the pet version, which is supposed to 
> be better at handling dog hair and things than the original.
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> Ari
> 
>> On May 31, 2016, at 7:26 AM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote:
>> 
>> And while this may not be exactly on topic for the list, it does fit in with 
>> the discussion about vacuums: get rid of all carpets 
>> in favour of hardwood, tile, cork or bamboo and live a cleaner life. After I 
>> replaced the carpet in my bedrooms with cork I never 
>> looked back and it is ever so much easier to clean. I can guaranty that 
>> Bill’s vacuum trick won’t pick up a speck of dirt after I 
>> have vacuumed my cork floor and especially when you have a dog carpets are 
>> horrible and wall to wall carpets in particular. It was 
>> amazing how much dirt was under my wall to wall carpet when I finally ripped 
>> it out after 12 or so years even though I vacuumed 
>> regularly and had it steam cleaned once a year or so.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Sieghard
>> 
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Bill Gallik
>> Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2016 7:09 AM
>> To: viPhone E-Mail List <viphone@googlegroups.com>; Peter Logan 
>> <pdlloga...@gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: Roomba 980 with an app!
>> 
>> Please permit me to explain something quite basic to the concept of vacuum 
>> cleaners; I learned from first-hand observation when I 
>> had reasonably good vision.
>> 
>> No matter how good any commercially available vacuum cleaner may be, there 
>> will always be some residual dirt left behind.  While 
>> my late wife and I lived in Wheaton, IL. we decided to buy an Electrolux.  
>> We called the company and they sent out a very 
>> delightfully dapper gentleman for a demonstration.  The then current vacuum 
>> cleaner we had a terrible job and we were ready for a 
>> definite upgrade (I’ll not mention the brand name of that vacuum cleaner).
>> 
>> The dapper sales rep showed up and proceed to do the demo where he ran our 
>> sorry vacuum over about a five square area of our 
>> living room carpet.  He then took his demo Electrolux, placed a handkerchief 
>> in the nozzle such as to serve as a filter and then 
>> proceded to vacuum over the same area previously done.  After completing 
>> this exercise, he showed all the dirt caught in the 
>> handkerchief with all the “left behind” dirt.
>> 
>> I then did the same thing (with a handkerchief) with our vacuum cleaner and 
>> once again cleaned over the “demonstration area.”  I 
>> then showed him the dirt left behind by the Electrolux.
>> 
>> That “demo trick” is something I had read about in a magazine with the 
>> supposition that any vacuum cleaner will not be able to get 
>> every spec of dirt.  We bought the Electrolux from this dapper sales rep 
>> anyway because it was a markedly better appliance than 
>> the one we had at that time.
>> 
>> The point is this, maybe the Rhumba won’t get every bit of dirt - but then, 
>> no commercially available cleaner will!
>> 
>> ————
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