That sounds like a good excuse to me, if Apple gives developers access to the 
SIRI API then it won’t matter if the commands have to do with Messages or 
calling or music or audio books. I guess they just hold back because they can.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Devin Prater
Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2016 2:24 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: WWDC event, was it yesterday?

They say that it is because Siri cannot accurately recognize other types of 
commands, but that when it does, those app catagories will get Siri access too.

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 15, 2016, at 12:19 PM, Sieghard Weitzel 
<siegh...@live.ca<mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:
Hi Jonathan,

Well, isn’t that nice of Apple. They make such a big deal of how they are 
opening up the API’s for all of these iOS features to developers but they 
conveniently forget to mention that really they don’t. As much as I like my 
iphone and what Apple is doing in many areas, it is very annoying that they are 
so backwards in other ways.


Regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jonathan Mosen
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2016 11:34 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: WWDC event, was it yesterday?

Hi Sieghard, sad to say, Siri won't be opening your Audible book any time soon. 
For iOS 10.0, the Siri API will only work with six kinds of application: ride 
booking, messaging , Photo Search, payments, Calling, and Workouts.
So, Siri won't be able to open a book in Voice Dream, Bard, or any other 
third-party book app. It won't be able to play music for you on Spotify or 
Pandora. It won't be able to play the most recent episode of a podcast using 
third-party podcast apps. I have no idea why Apple is so tone deaf to how far 
it is lagging behind in this space, but what they're coming out with is only 
going to improve the situation slightly.
Jonathan Mosen
Mosen Consulting
Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
http://Mosen.org<http://mosen.org>

On 15/06/2016, at 6:59 AM, Sieghard Weitzel 
<siegh...@live.ca<mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:

Hi Devin,

Yes, some of it sounds very nice, but as others have pointed out, there isn't 
much that is really groundbreaking. Collaboration in documents is something 
Microsoft has been offering for years and it is high time Apple opened up their 
API's to developers especially the one for SIRI. They pointed out that SIRI has 
been around for 5 years now and if you really think about it SIRI now is not a 
lot better than it was 5 years ago. Yes, it's a bit faster with dictation and 
can pull information from a few more sources, but why is it still not possible 
to say "Call Kevin from Bigrock Sports" just to give an example of one of my 
contacts where I have at least 3 or 4 Kevins in my contacts who all work for 
different companies. I can't even create a contact where I just enter a company 
name in the company name field and a single phone number and say, for example, 
"Call Bigrock Sports". I have to also put the company name in the last name 
field to do this. I should be able to say "Show me all my contacts who work at 
Bigrock Sports" or I should be able to tell SIRI to "Turn Voiceover Hints On or 
Off", but all of these things SIRI can't do. Another example: I can tell SIRI 
to "Remind me about my dentist appointment on Friday at 3 PM", but if I say 
"Remind me about my 3 PM dentist appointment on Friday at 2 PM" it will say it 
will remind me and when I check what SIRI created I see it created the reminder 
for 3 PM whereas I want to be reminded at 2 PM that my appointment is at 3 PM. 
There is a complicated way to say it so it does what I want, but I should be 
able to say it anyway I like or even in two parts like "Remind me about my 
dentist appointment at 3 PM on Friday" and when SIRI says it will I should be 
able to bring it up again and say "Start reminding me once an hour starting at 
11 AM and it should understand that I want a reminder at 11 AM, Noon, 1 PM and 
2 PM and maybe by its own intelligence SIRI should remind me again 15 minutes 
before if it detects my iPhone is not moving. This is true artificial 
intelligence, it already exists, the iPhone has the processing power to do it 
and so do Apple's servers.
I can't say how much I look forward to being finally able to say "Play the 
Audible book I am currently listening to" or, if I have not started one but 
have a bunch downloaded I hope I can say "Play Night Ranger in audible" (just 
one example of a book by Alex Berentson I just finished).
Another basic example of something super simple SIRI can't do. Try and ask SIRI 
to "Start the Stop Watch". SIRI will tell you "Sorry, I can't help you with the 
stop watch". Huh, really, it can set a timer, an alarm, it can create calendar 
events and reminders but it can't start the stop watch? Why?


Best regards,
Sieghard

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[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Devin Prater
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Subject: Re: WWDC event, was it yesterday?

Sure, but little things add up to big changes. Siri gets integrated into 
predictive text, so she can suggest better options there, like I'm at (suggests 
input of location into the text)" and stuff like that. Siri is open to 
developers, so apps can allow Siri to use their functionality from anywhere. 
Apps can do things within iMessage, like allowing sending of money right from 
messages. Mac gets Siri, tabs in every multi-window app. People can collaborate 
with notes. Unlock Mac with Apple watch. Just amazing stuff!

Sent from my iPhone



On Jun 14, 2016, at 10:43 AM, Kelly Pierce 
<kellyt...@gmail.com<mailto:kellyt...@gmail.com>> wrote:

If you can't stream it, download my MP3 of the event and play it on a
stand alone device.  Apple announced incremental improvements, not
breakthrough technology.  Even Facebook with its calling feature in
the messages app, a Facetime mimmick, offered something new.  Some of
Apple's innovations will need to be experieinced to be believed.  The
photos app will now be able to recognize peple and places.

Kelly



On 6/14/16, 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone 
<viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> wrote:
Hi,

  I was under the impression that the Apple event was yesterday. I
cannot stream it, no bandwidth! But, if it was yesterday, how come
the silence? Was it so unremarkable? Or do I have the wrong week?

Thanks, Sandy.

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