Last I heard, which was not very long ago, according to a recent issue of
the Economist, Android has over 80 percent of the smart phone market. So I
would say that Apple is getting serious competition already.
Evan
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From: Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2016 8:07 AM
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Subject: Re: WWDC event, was it yesterday?
I would claim that Apple is getting real competition from other smart
phone makers. I haven't checked the numbers lately, but Android in
general and Samsung in particular outsell IOS and i Phones. Even if
Apple has let over Samsung or is doing better in particular markets, I
think Apple would be crazy not to consider this serious competition.
Note, I'm not saying Android or Samsung is better than IOS or Apple, but
I just don't think it's true that they aren't real competition for the
iPhone.
On 16/06/16 01:42, Gary Petraccaro wrote:
That will change when Apple starts getting real competition from other
smartphone makers, or the blind start calling/writing the access people
and requesting features such as what you want. If that doesn't do it,
then Apple just has certain established attitudes toward their product
and feels no reason to change them. One of those, the failure of Siri
to open shazam or Google seems to me to be based on Apple's making a
competitive product and not wanting it's operating system to give a leg
up to a product not Apple's own.
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*From:* Sieghard Weitzel <mailto:siegh...@live.ca>
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
*Sent:* Wednesday, June 15, 2016 1:19 PM
*Subject:* RE: WWDC event, was it yesterday?
Hi Jonathan,
Well, isn’t that nice of Apple. They make such a big deal of how
they are opening up the API’s for all of these iOS features to
developers but they conveniently forget to mention that really they
don’t. As much as I like my iphone and what Apple is doing in many
areas, it is very annoying that they are so backwards in other ways.
Regards,
Sieghard
*From:*viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
*On Behalf Of *Jonathan Mosen
*Sent:* Tuesday, June 14, 2016 11:34 PM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* Re: WWDC event, was it yesterday?
Hi Sieghard, sad to say, Siri won't be opening your Audible book any
time soon. For iOS 10.0, the Siri API will only work with six kinds
of application: ride booking, messaging , Photo Search, payments,
Calling, and Workouts.
So, Siri won't be able to open a book in Voice Dream, Bard, or any
other third-party book app. It won't be able to play music for you
on Spotify or Pandora. It won't be able to play the most recent
episode of a podcast using third-party podcast apps. I have no idea
why Apple is so tone deaf to how far it is lagging behind in this
space, but what they're coming out with is only going to improve the
situation slightly.
Jonathan Mosen
Mosen Consulting
Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
http://Mosen.org <http://mosen.org>
On 15/06/2016, at 6:59 AM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca
<mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:
Hi Devin,
Yes, some of it sounds very nice, but as others have pointed
out, there isn't much that is really groundbreaking.
Collaboration in documents is something Microsoft has been
offering for years and it is high time Apple opened up their
API's to developers especially the one for SIRI. They pointed
out that SIRI has been around for 5 years now and if you really
think about it SIRI now is not a lot better than it was 5 years
ago. Yes, it's a bit faster with dictation and can pull
information from a few more sources, but why is it still not
possible to say "Call Kevin from Bigrock Sports" just to give an
example of one of my contacts where I have at least 3 or 4
Kevins in my contacts who all work for different companies. I
can't even create a contact where I just enter a company name in
the company name field and a single phone number and say, for
example, "Call Bigrock Sports". I have to also put the company
name in the last name field to do this. I should be able to say
"Show me all my contacts who work at Bigrock Sports" or I should
be able to tell SIRI to "Turn Voiceover Hints On or Off", but
all of these things SIRI can't do. Another example: I can tell
SIRI to "Remind me about my dentist appointment on Friday at 3
PM", but if I say "Remind me about my 3 PM dentist appointment
on Friday at 2 PM" it will say it will remind me and when I
check what SIRI created I see it created the reminder for 3 PM
whereas I want to be reminded at 2 PM that my appointment is at
3 PM. There is a complicated way to say it so it does what I
want, but I should be able to say it anyway I like or even in
two parts like "Remind me about my dentist appointment at 3 PM
on Friday" and when SIRI says it will I should be able to bring
it up again and say "Start reminding me once an hour starting at
11 AM and it should understand that I want a reminder at 11 AM,
Noon, 1 PM and 2 PM and maybe by its own intelligence SIRI
should remind me again 15 minutes before if it detects my iPhone
is not moving. This is true artificial intelligence, it already
exists, the iPhone has the processing power to do it and so do
Apple's servers.
I can't say how much I look forward to being finally able to say
"Play the Audible book I am currently listening to" or, if I
have not started one but have a bunch downloaded I hope I can
say "Play Night Ranger in audible" (just one example of a book
by Alex Berentson I just finished).
Another basic example of something super simple SIRI can't do.
Try and ask SIRI to "Start the Stop Watch". SIRI will tell you
"Sorry, I can't help you with the stop watch". Huh, really, it
can set a timer, an alarm, it can create calendar events and
reminders but it can't start the stop watch? Why?
Best regards,
Sieghard
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[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Devin Prater
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2016 8:50 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: WWDC event, was it yesterday?
Sure, but little things add up to big changes. Siri gets
integrated into predictive text, so she can suggest better
options there, like I'm at (suggests input of location into the
text)" and stuff like that. Siri is open to developers, so apps
can allow Siri to use their functionality from anywhere. Apps
can do things within iMessage, like allowing sending of money
right from messages. Mac gets Siri, tabs in every multi-window
app. People can collaborate with notes. Unlock Mac with Apple
watch. Just amazing stuff!
Sent from my iPhone
On Jun 14, 2016, at 10:43 AM, Kelly Pierce
<kellyt...@gmail.com <mailto:kellyt...@gmail.com>> wrote:
If you can't stream it, download my MP3 of the event and
play it on a
stand alone device. Apple announced incremental
improvements, not
breakthrough technology. Even Facebook with its calling
feature in
the messages app, a Facetime mimmick, offered something new.
Some of
Apple's innovations will need to be experieinced to be
believed. The
photos app will now be able to recognize peple and places.
Kelly
On 6/14/16, 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone
<viphone@googlegroups.com
<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> wrote:
Hi,
I was under the impression that the Apple event was
yesterday. I
cannot stream it, no bandwidth! But, if it was
yesterday, how come
the silence? Was it so unremarkable? Or do I have the
wrong week?
Thanks, Sandy.
sent from the dark side of the moon
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