Well, accessibility wise is an extremely small part of the market. So I would say that Apple is not worried about competition on that score. Even if Android took all of the market for those who need accessibility, it would be hardly noticeable to Apple's total revenue. We're extremely lucky that Apple does as much as it does for accessibility. I don't know the details of what the law says as to what they are required to do, but I doubt that they are required to do as much as Apple has done. I just hope they keep that apparent commitment to such a small part of their business.
Evan

-----Original Message----- From: Krister Ekstrom
Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2016 1:04 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: WWDC event, was it yesterday?

The question however is how much competition is there accessibility wise? Yeah, the geeks could probably get an Android phone started and even to work, but what about ordinary not overly bright consumers like me?
/Krister

16 juni 2016 kl. 17:58 skrev Evan Reese <[email protected]>:

Last I heard, which was not very long ago, according to a recent issue of the Economist, Android has over 80 percent of the smart phone market. So I would say that Apple is getting serious competition already.
Evan

-----Original Message----- From: Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2016 8:07 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: WWDC event, was it yesterday?

I would claim that Apple is getting real competition from other smart
phone makers. I haven't checked the numbers lately, but Android in
general and Samsung in particular outsell IOS and i Phones. Even if
Apple has let over Samsung or is doing better in particular markets, I
think Apple would be crazy not to consider this serious competition.

Note, I'm not saying Android or Samsung is better than IOS or Apple, but
I just don't think it's true that they aren't real competition for the
iPhone.

On 16/06/16 01:42, Gary Petraccaro wrote:
That will change when Apple starts getting real competition from other
smartphone makers, or the blind start calling/writing the access people
and requesting features such as what you want.  If that doesn't do it,
then Apple just has certain established attitudes toward their product
and feels no reason to change them.  One of those, the failure of Siri
to open shazam or Google seems to me to be based on Apple's making a
competitive product and not wanting it's operating system to give a leg
up to a product not Apple's own.

   ----- Original Message -----
   *From:* Sieghard Weitzel <mailto:[email protected]>
   *To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
   *Sent:* Wednesday, June 15, 2016 1:19 PM
   *Subject:* RE: WWDC event, was it yesterday?

   Hi Jonathan,

   Well, isn’t that nice of Apple. They make such a big deal of how
   they are opening up the API’s for all of these iOS features to
   developers but they conveniently forget to mention that really they
   don’t. As much as I like my iphone and what Apple is doing in many
   areas, it is very annoying that they are so backwards in other ways.

   Regards,

   Sieghard

   *From:*[email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
   *On Behalf Of *Jonathan Mosen
   *Sent:* Tuesday, June 14, 2016 11:34 PM
   *To:* [email protected]
   *Subject:* Re: WWDC event, was it yesterday?

   Hi Sieghard, sad to say, Siri won't be opening your Audible book any
   time soon. For iOS 10.0, the Siri API will only work with six kinds
   of application: ride booking, messaging , Photo Search, payments,
   Calling, and Workouts.

   So, Siri won't be able to open a book in Voice Dream, Bard, or any
   other third-party book app. It won't be able to play music for you
   on Spotify or Pandora. It won't be able to play the most recent
   episode of a podcast using third-party podcast apps. I have no idea
   why Apple is so tone deaf to how far it is lagging behind in this
   space, but what they're coming out with is only going to improve the
   situation slightly.

   Jonathan Mosen

   Mosen Consulting

   Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training

   http://Mosen.org <http://mosen.org>

       On 15/06/2016, at 6:59 AM, Sieghard Weitzel <[email protected]
       <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

       Hi Devin,

       Yes, some of it sounds very nice, but as others have pointed
       out, there isn't much that is really groundbreaking.
       Collaboration in documents is something Microsoft has been
       offering for years and it is high time Apple opened up their
       API's to developers especially the one for SIRI. They pointed
       out that SIRI has been around for 5 years now and if you really
       think about it SIRI now is not a lot better than it was 5 years
       ago. Yes, it's a bit faster with dictation and can pull
       information from a few more sources, but why is it still not
       possible to say "Call Kevin from Bigrock Sports" just to give an
       example of one of my contacts where I have at least 3 or 4
       Kevins in my contacts who all work for different companies. I
       can't even create a contact where I just enter a company name in
       the company name field and a single phone number and say, for
       example, "Call Bigrock Sports". I have to also put the company
       name in the last name field to do this. I should be able to say
       "Show me all my contacts who work at Bigrock Sports" or I should
       be able to tell SIRI to "Turn Voiceover Hints On or Off", but
       all of these things SIRI can't do. Another example: I can tell
       SIRI to "Remind me about my dentist appointment on Friday at 3
       PM", but if I say "Remind me about my 3 PM dentist appointment
       on Friday at 2 PM" it will say it will remind me and when I
       check what SIRI created I see it created the reminder for 3 PM
       whereas I want to be reminded at 2 PM that my appointment is at
       3 PM. There is a complicated way to say it so it does what I
       want, but I should be able to say it anyway I like or even in
       two parts like "Remind me about my dentist appointment at 3 PM
       on Friday" and when SIRI says it will I should be able to bring
       it up again and say "Start reminding me once an hour starting at
       11 AM and it should understand that I want a reminder at 11 AM,
       Noon, 1 PM and 2 PM and maybe by its own intelligence SIRI
       should remind me again 15 minutes before if it detects my iPhone
       is not moving. This is true artificial intelligence, it already
       exists, the iPhone has the processing power to do it and so do
       Apple's servers.
       I can't say how much I look forward to being finally able to say
       "Play the Audible book I am currently listening to" or, if I
       have not started one but have a bunch downloaded I hope I can
       say "Play Night Ranger in audible" (just one example of a book
       by Alex Berentson I just finished).
       Another basic example of something super simple SIRI can't do.
       Try and ask SIRI to "Start the Stop Watch". SIRI will tell you
       "Sorry, I can't help you with the stop watch". Huh, really, it
       can set a timer, an alarm, it can create calendar events and
       reminders but it can't start the stop watch? Why?


       Best regards,
       Sieghard

       -----Original Message-----
       From: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
       [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Devin Prater
       Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2016 8:50 AM
       To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
       Subject: Re: WWDC event, was it yesterday?

       Sure, but little things add up to big changes. Siri gets
       integrated into predictive text, so she can suggest better
       options there, like I'm at (suggests input of location into the
       text)" and stuff like that. Siri is open to developers, so apps
       can allow Siri to use their functionality from anywhere. Apps
       can do things within iMessage, like allowing sending of money
       right from messages. Mac gets Siri, tabs in every multi-window
       app. People can collaborate with notes. Unlock Mac with Apple
       watch. Just amazing stuff!

       Sent from my iPhone


           On Jun 14, 2016, at 10:43 AM, Kelly Pierce
           <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

           If you can't stream it, download my MP3 of the event and
           play it on a
           stand alone device.  Apple announced incremental
           improvements, not
           breakthrough technology.  Even Facebook with its calling
           feature in
           the messages app, a Facetime mimmick, offered something new.
             Some of
           Apple's innovations will need to be experieinced to be
           believed.  The
           photos app will now be able to recognize peple and places.

           Kelly


               On 6/14/16, 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone
               <[email protected]
               <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
               Hi,

                  I was under the impression that the Apple event was
               yesterday. I
               cannot stream it, no bandwidth! But, if it was
               yesterday, how come
               the silence? Was it so unremarkable? Or do I have the
               wrong week?

               Thanks, Sandy.

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