Hi To be honest, even the new lock screen sounds processor intensive, so dropping the 4s was a good move on Apple’s part. I say, can’t believe it survived so many versions of iOS all the way back from 5 to 9. > On 20 Jun 2016, at 15:54, rajmund <brajmund2...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Hi, > I heard roomers that it can be done with the 4S, but not with later model. > > Sent from a BrailleNote > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca > To: "viphone@googlegroups.com" <viphone@googlegroups.com > Date sent: Mon, 20 Jun 2016 13:47:42 +0000 > Subject: RE: IOS 10-- what's new in accessibility ? > > I think it's more the experience Apple wants users to have. Yes, they could > probably disable features the 4S may have problems with like, for example, > the face and object recognition on pictures. They said that iOS does 11 > Billion computations on a single picture and it is all done on device so it's > not that powerful servers in the cloud do the work and just provide the > results back to the device. But I guess if many of the new and advanced > features of iOS 10 would be disabled on a 4S there may just not be that much > reason to support it. Considering that the 4S is now 5 years old, I also > assume that as a percentage of iPhones out there not that many of them are 4S > phones any more. Anyhow, I guess Apple has to draw the line somewhere, if > they support the 4S others may say then why not support the 4. I actually > think it's amazing they have supported the 4S for this long, the 4S came with > iOS 5 so it was able to run 4 more versions of iOS after the one it came out > with, show me another mobile phone that had this kind of support. Anyhow, > iOS 9 is pretty good and people who still have a 4S that runs good can still > run it with iOS 9 for years to come I assume although they may have to > replace the battery since I doubt that a 4S that was bought in 2011 still > holds a charge for that long. I have a friend who bought a 3GS in 2009 and > he used it until he bought a 5S in 2013, so for 4 years, and while he of > course wanted the newer faster phone, he also said that he only got a few > hours of use out of the phone at that point. A friend in Germany said her > son just bought a fairly inexpensive battery kit which came with the special > screwdriver which iks required to open the iPhone and instructions and he > would able to replace the battery on his iPhone (can't remember the model) > himself, but I would say most people can't or would not do this. > > Regards, > Sieghard > > -----Original Message----- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of > Christopher Chaltain > Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2016 11:30 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: IOS 10-- what's new in accessibility ? > > I'm not sure who does do artificial deprecation of hardware, but I am a bit > disappointed that my 4S may no longer be supported. I'm not sure if there's > something in the 4S that Apple no longer wants to code support for or if it's > because they don't want users to get a less than great experience on an Apple > device. It may also be that they want to save some money by not taking any > support questions on the 4S or by doing any regression testing on it. I'd be > willing to try IOS 10 on it to see how it performced if Apple would let me > though. I'd do this even if Apple told me it hadn't been tested and wouldn't > be supported and I was on my own giving it a try. > > Don't get me wrong, I'm glad I had the run I did on my 4S, but I compare this > to my netbook from 2009 that still running the latest Linux or my laptop from > 2011 that's also running the latest Linux but also able to run Windows 10. > > On 19/06/16 18:04, Devin Prater wrote: > Yep, and I think that shows that Apple doesn't do artificial > deprecation of hardware. > Sent from my Mac. > > Devin Prater > r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com <mailto:r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com > > > > On Jun 17, 2016, at 1:37 PM, christopher hallsworth > <challswor...@icloud.com <mailto:challswor...@icloud.com>> wrote: > > My prediction, iOS 11 will work on the 5s and up. iOS 12, 6 and up, > etc etc. But Apple did surprise us last year when they announced all > devices running iOS 8 could run iOS 9. So what I put here is only > speculation. > On 17 Jun 2016, at 02:43, Gerardo Corripio <gera1...@gmail.com > <mailto:gera1...@gmail.com>> wrote: > > At least maybe until iOS11 probably by September of 2018 when iOS12 > comes out maybe it won't be supported anymore? > > El 16/06/2016 03:28 p.m., Donna escribió: > Chris > > Do you know how much longer the iPhone 5s will be supported? I'm > considering getting my soon to be teenager an iPhone 5s for > Christmas. I don't want to purchase her a phone that will only be > supported for a short time. > > Donna > Final update? For the iPhone 5? All we know is that the iPhone 4s > is due for its "final update" very soon, 9.3.3, before it will be > considered "obsolete". Can't believe it has survived this far. > iPhone 5, however, will have at least one more year of software > support since iOS 10 will run on it and will be the oldest iPhone > to support this upcoming major release. > On 16 Jun 2016, at 19:54, Michael McKay<mgmckay1...@gmail.com > <mailto:mgmckay1...@gmail.com>> wrote: > > Hi folks: I am wondering if anyone knows when the final iOS > update is out for the iPhone 5. I have been told that there is > one more major update coming out for the iPhone 5 and then there > would be no more, and then I would upgrade my phone to an iPhone > 6 Plus, 6S plus or seven. If someone could get back to me and let > me know about the iPhone 5 final update it would be appreciated. > > Thanks much! > Michael G. McKay BA, '05. > Email: mgmckay1...@gmail.com <mailto:mgmckay1...@gmail.com > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Jun 16, 2016, at 15:32, Krister > Ekstrom<kris...@kristersplace.com > <mailto:kris...@kristersplace.com>> wrote: > > Confirmed here too. Tried the link and got a "delivery failed" > notice here too. > /Krister > > 16 juni 2016 kl. 19:37 skrev Michael G > McKay<mgmckay1...@gmail.com <mailto:mgmckay1...@gmail.com>>: > > Hi! Mr. Mosen: > > I just tried to subscribe to the email group you mentioned. And > it returned saying that the delivery failed permanently. I used > the subscribe link you provided for the list. > > Assistance would be very much appreciated. > > Thanks much in advance. > > Michael G. McKay BA, '05. > Email: mgmckay1...@gmail.com <mailto:mgmckay1...@gmail.com > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com > <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com > [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jonathan Mosen > Sent: June 16, 2016 1:44 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: IOS 10-- what's new in accessibility ? > > Hi Guys, for three or four years, I've been running an email > list for registered developers and, as of last year, public > beta testers of iOS. > It's very focussed and has a lot of experienced testers, but if > you think you can contribute, you can send a blank email to: > testing-subscr...@lists.appcessible.net > <mailto:testing-subscr...@lists.appcessible.net > Jonathan Mosen > Mosen Consulting > Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training > http://Mosen.org > > On 17/06/2016, at 12:28 AM, Liel Ben Simon ???? ?? > ?????<liel...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Hi! The beta of the developers is different from publick beta. > Only in the publick beta there is a feedbeck app. > > Sent from my iphone > > ??-16 ????? 2016, ???? 15:20, ??Shawn Krasniuk > ?<bbssh...@icloud.com> ???/?: > > Well, I think for your case, they'd make an exception. You > know Matt Dierckens right? Maybe shoot him an email asking if > developer testers are discluded from that list. If you don't, > email me off list and I'll gladly send you his email address. > > Shawn > Sent From My White MacBook > Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk Twitter Handle: > shawnk_aka_bbs Skype username: bbstheblindrapper > Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com > > On Jun 16, 2016, at 3:36 AM, Krister > Ekstrom<kris...@kristersplace.com> wrote: > > Hmm interesting, this means i will be excluded from the beta > testers list if i get that question because i'm a registered > developer and use developer betas and have never had the > feedback assistant. > /Krister > > 16 juni 2016 kl. 04:48 skrev Shawn > Krasniuk<bbssh...@icloud.com>: > > Hi Chris. I gotta interject with you here. Being that I'm > one of the members of the beta list, it's not breaking NDA > at all. Only beta testers can subscribe to that list. The > moderators ask questions like where your Feedback Assistant > app is and if you don't have one, they'll automatically > reject your request to join. Just thought I'd clear that up > and yes, iOS 10 was available for developers as a beta > after the WWDC keynote. > > Shawn > Sent From My White MacBook > Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk Twitter Handle: > shawnk_aka_bbs Skype username: bbstheblindrapper > Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com > > On Jun 15, 2016, at 7:16 AM, Christopher > Chaltain<chalt...@gmail.com> wrote: > > That's true, but people are perfectly free to discuss > whatever Apple has announced, which would include any new > accessibility features that were announced during the > developers summit. I'm not sure there's an IOS 10 beta > yet, so no one could talk about what they're seeing in the > beta anyway. > > BTW, talking about Apple's beta software, even on a beta > list, is still violating Apple's NDA with beta users. > > On 15/06/16 07:12, Daniel Miller wrote: > > Hi. Unfortunately, no one is allowed to post anything > about purelease software on this list. 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