Hi Sandra.

Ok thank you. Ok it is as it is. I am happy that I did not just buy it and 
afterwards could not get it set up. Maybe the brand new talking goggles can be 
of some help.

Cheers Annie.
> Den 1. jul. 2016 kl. 14.50 skrev 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone 
> <[email protected]>:
> 
> Annie,
> 
>    OK! I have just taken a much closer look at the touch screen on the BotVac 
> Connected. I had my, very impatient, partner look over my shoulder. Firstly, 
> I discovered that it isn't a touch screen at all! The screen, whichis about 3 
> inches/8 cm would that be? square, is only a display.  Immediately to the 
> right and near to the top of the screen, there is an  up-arrow, this is 
> touch/pressure sensitive.
> Also, to the right, but lower down, is  a down-arrow, also touch sensitive. A 
> little lower down, still to the right of the screen, is a left pointing arrow.
> Finally, there is a sort of "bar" marked, directly beneath the screen, in the 
> centre.
> 
> So, the Bot is menu driven. You either go up or down the lists with the 
> arrows and select the one you want with the "bar" beneath the screen. The 
> left arrow takes you back through the screen pages until you reach home. You 
> can press this left/home arrow as many times as you like, because it will 
> stop changing the page, once you have reached home. Unfortunately, in all the 
> other lists, such as 'settings" these are circular, so, once you reach the 
> last in the list it starts again with the first option, possible to get lost 
> in these!! 
> 
>    I got my, ex-partner, to put some bits of "bling" (you know the plastic 
> glittery stuff that kids use to customise their phones/faces etc? He stuck 
> them directly on the arrows and the bar. However, even with the plastic bling 
> (mine are like little pearls) as soon as I touch them, it triggers off the 
> touch/pressure sensitive arrow. Even if I am extra careful, I find it very 
> tricky to control and not set off, by accident these arrows. They do make a 
> sound though, so you do know when you have activated one. The good news is: 
> you have to press that bar before anything is activated or set.
> 
>    Where am i going with all this, too much information? I see that we have 
> just 4 buttons (for want of a better description). If these buttons/arrows 
> were tactile, at a pinch, we could set the wifi up without sighted help. In 
> order to put the tactile markers on, we need sighted help, as the arrows are 
> not feelable. What I am thinking, for you is this: if I can think of a 
> solution, using cardboard, with cut-outs, which could be placed on top of the 
> Bot, just for the set-up of the wifi, could you do it? I think, YES!
> 
>    From the home screen, which is where you should be upon start-up, I think, 
> you would use the down arrow 3 times to get to the third option which is 
> "settings". Then use the Bar to go into it. then use the down arrow again 
> till you hit wifi, but can't remember how many times, just musing here at the 
> moment.... Once over wifi, hit the bar again and finish withthe left arrow 
> twice to take you home and you are done!!!
> 
>    You see, it is not difficult, the only trick is not setting off  arrow 
> movement and losing your place in the list. I think, if you were very 
> dexterous, it would be possible to do this with sighted help  through  Be My 
> Eyes, but better with the help from Neato support as they could direct you in 
> the right direction in case of an accidental triggering, which, I have to 
> say, is almost unavoidable!!
> 
> I am not going to ask if this helps, I know it hasn't, really I am just 
> musing. It is, for example, useful to understand that the screen itself is 
> not touch sensitive. These are, if you like, hardware buttons, and so, should 
> be accessible via the app, but that still wouldn't help, as you need the wifi 
> in order to use the app.
> 
> Arrrrrgh!
> 
> Let me think some more....
> 
> Sandy (very challenged!)  
> 
> sent from the dark side of the moon
> 
>> On 1 Jul 2016, at 10:29, Annie Skov Nielsen <[email protected]> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Sandra and all.
>> 
>> I am concidering buying one of these vacuum cleaners, but can we connect it 
>> to the wifi the first time or do that require sighted assistance? I do not 
>> have any sighted assistance, so it would be important for me that I can 
>> connect it myself.
>> 
>> Best regards Annie.
>>> Den 14. jun. 2016 kl. 15.14 skrev 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone 
>>> <[email protected]>:
>>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>>  After a little panic on my part, i now find I can use the app a little 
>>> better! i just managed to change Turbo to Eco. I just did a spot clean, 
>>> when it cleans an area, either 2 meters x 2 meters or 4 meters x 4 meters. 
>>> Then it returns to base. I did this by just pressing a button, so very 
>>> easy. Useful for rugs or single rooms. My issues with my house network wifi 
>>> settings are almost resolved, touch wood. I am discovering that the best 
>>> way to deal with the vac is to let it do its own thing, I.E., "clean house" 
>>> either with the app or just press a button, there are only two buttons, and 
>>> then leaving it to finish. From my reading, this is true for all users, but 
>>> especially for us, as not all notifications are sent to the app, some show 
>>> up on the onboard screen and need to be read. I find it a bit concerning 
>>> replacing the Bot on its dock, visually, you can tell by the lights that it 
>>> is in the right position, but without the clues, hard to tell. So a quick 
>>> way to be sure would be to do a "spot clean" by pressing one button, when 
>>> it has finished, it will go home and play a tune and send a message. 
>>> 
>>> Still very happy, floors cleaner than they have been for years! 
>>> Smug, Sandy.   
>>> 
>>> sent from the dark side of the moon
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