As I have only seen one Android I do not know if the phone Jack is on it, but for some maybe this would be a good replacement to the new Apple? I have been told Talk Back is a pretty good program. I believe too that because Apple has removed the Jack, if well received by the general public, it will also disappear from the Android and Windows phones. I think fortunately or unfortunately we are a subset given drops of accessibility and as we are now using mainstream devices we are at the public's mercy. Doesn't make it right, just a fact, and we want parity with our sighted counterparts, right? Kind of like the ERA. Put women in combat when some said they should never be. Change is hard, and I sure understand the deaf/blind problem (with my hearing deficit(, but there are ways around the problems, inconvenient yes but not worth waging a war over. Tell Apple accessibility or hold onto old phones or yell here if you must, but the earphone jack is gone, and there are much, much more important problems with Voice-over that Apple should be addressing in my opinion.
reggie & Lex On Sep 9, 2016, at 8:25 AM, Christopher Chaltain <[email protected]> wrote: I suspect you're right that the headphone jack is gone for good, but it's definitely true if anyone who misses the headphone jack doesn't let Apple know how much they miss it. There's also no reason Apple couldn't put the headphone jack back in a future device, although like I said, I would doubt it. I'm also not sure how much of my regret over missing the headphone jack is because I'm blind. I suppose I use my headphones more than my sighted peers because I'll tend to grab them every time I just want to check the lock screen, but I don't think it's just blind users who'll be wishing their new phone had a headphone jack on it that they've taken for granted on all of their electronics for years. It also sounds like you're saying we, especially as blind consumers, shouldn't criticize Apple for a decision they made. I'm curious, are you just talking about Apple or all companies? Are you just talking about blind consumers or all consumers? For how much Apple wants me to pay to get an iPhone 7, I think I'm allowed to criticize a decision Apple made. I for one don't think Apple is perfect, and I'm not just going to assume that they'll never make a mistake and they always know what's best for me. This isn't a knock on Apple, but just those who think we should just be thankful for whatever Apple decides we as consumers and blind consumers should be happy with. > On 09/09/16 04:51, Larry Lumpkin wrote: > Folks. The headphone jack is gone for good and I think we should move on. > Apple made that decision years ago and every blind user in the world wasn't > going to alter that decision. Charging while listening isn't a big deal for > me but I'm retired and don't use my phone all that much for calling anyway. > If I need power sooner, I'll buy the Belcan thingie. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of > Terje Strømberg > Sent: Friday, September 09, 2016 4:23 AM > To: "[email protected] Strømberg" <[email protected]> > Cc: Terje Strømberg <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: Belkin's coming out with the adapter some of us need > > It would be cool if iPhone SE with 3.5mm beats iPhone 7, 7+ hard on the sales > figures. Don’t think so, but …… Camera is too important for sighted people. > > Take care > > >> 8. sep. 2016 kl. 23.28 skrev Donald Moore <[email protected]>: >> >> You know, if enough people forego the iPhone 7, maybe the 8 will go back to >> the old plug. >> >> >> >> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On >> Behalf Of Cristóbal >> Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2016 5:06 PM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: RE: Belkin's coming out with the adapter some of us need >> >> You figured that something like this was eventually going to come out by a >> mainstream company or via a kickstarter campaign. >> Off putting though that you have to shell out an extra $40.00 for >> something that’s not even really a mobile solution. Curious to see what kind >> of battery pack designs these same companies are going to come up with for >> those of us who may want or need that extra backup. There goes another >> $40.00 or $80.00 or whatever on top of everything else. That and what type >> of solution they’re going to come up with for all the credit card swipers >> that are so ubiquitous Appel was actually getting credit yesterday for only >> selling the replacement dongles for $9.00, but I guess this shows they’re >> going to get their pound of flesh one way or another. >> Those dongles are probably viewed as a lost leader anyway. >> >> >> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On >> Behalf Of Jonathan Mosen >> Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 12:47 PM >> To: 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone >> Subject: Belkin's coming out with the adapter some of us need >> >> Hi all, I really wish Apple had shipped this kind of product in the box, but >> for those who want to upgrade and had legitimate concerns about the lack of >> ability to use wired headphones and charge, here's the solution. >> http://www.macrumors.com/2016/09/08/belkin-lightning-audio-adapter-iph >> one-7/ >> Jonathan Mosen >> Mosen Consulting >> Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training http://Mosen.org >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or >> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara >> Quinn - you can reach Cara at [email protected] >> >> The archives for this list can be searched at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "VIPhone" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or >> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara >> Quinn - you can reach Cara at [email protected] >> >> The archives for this list can be searched at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "VIPhone" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or >> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara >> Quinn - you can reach Cara at [email protected] >> >> The archives for this list can be searched at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "VIPhone" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - > you can reach Cara at [email protected] > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- Christopher (CJ) chaltain at Gmail -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. 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