The windows phones and android phones will follow suit. Eventually there will 
be no earphone jacks in any of the phones. I'm glad this company put out a 
product to solve the problems that people are worrying about. I will look into 
this product when I get a phone. I am keeping my 6S full right now, I'm not 
eligible for an upgrade.

Cathy and Tiny.

> On Sep 9, 2016, at 9:49 AM, Regina Alvarado <reggie.alvar...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> As I have only seen one Android I do not know if the phone Jack is on it, but 
> for some maybe this would be a good replacement to the new Apple? I have been 
> told Talk Back is a pretty good program. I believe too that because Apple has 
> removed the Jack, if well received by the general public, it will also 
> disappear from the Android and Windows phones. I think fortunately or 
> unfortunately we are a subset given drops of accessibility and as we are now 
> using mainstream devices we are at the public's mercy. Doesn't make it right, 
> just a fact, and we want parity with our sighted counterparts, right? Kind of 
> like the ERA. Put women in combat when some said they should never be. Change 
> is hard, and I sure understand the deaf/blind problem (with my hearing 
> deficit(, but there are ways around the problems, inconvenient yes but not 
> worth waging a war over. Tell Apple accessibility or hold onto old phones or 
> yell here if you must, but the earphone jack is gone, and there are much, 
> much more important problems with Voice-over that Apple should be addressing 
> in my opinion.
> 
> reggie & Lex
> 
> On Sep 9, 2016, at 8:25 AM, Christopher Chaltain <chalt...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I suspect you're right that the headphone jack is gone for good, but it's 
> definitely true if anyone who misses the headphone jack doesn't let Apple 
> know how much they miss it. There's also no reason  Apple couldn't put the 
> headphone jack back in a future device, although like I said, I would doubt 
> it.
> 
> I'm also not sure how much of my regret over missing the headphone jack is 
> because I'm blind. I suppose I use my headphones more than my sighted peers 
> because I'll tend to grab them every time I just want to check the lock 
> screen, but I don't think it's just blind users who'll be wishing their new 
> phone had a headphone jack on it that they've taken for granted on all of 
> their electronics for years.
> 
> It also sounds like you're saying we, especially as blind consumers, 
> shouldn't criticize Apple for a decision they made. I'm curious, are you just 
> talking about Apple or all companies? Are you just talking about blind 
> consumers or all consumers? For how much Apple wants me to pay to get an 
> iPhone 7, I think I'm allowed to criticize a decision Apple made. I for one 
> don't think Apple is perfect, and I'm not just going to assume that they'll 
> never make a mistake and they always know what's best for me. This isn't a 
> knock on Apple, but just those who think we should just be thankful for 
> whatever Apple decides we as consumers and blind consumers should be happy 
> with.
> 
>> On 09/09/16 04:51, Larry Lumpkin wrote:
>> Folks. The headphone jack is gone for good and I think we should move on.  
>> Apple made that decision years ago and every blind user in the world wasn't 
>> going to alter that decision.  Charging while listening isn't a big deal for 
>> me but I'm retired and don't use my phone all that much for calling anyway.  
>> If I need power sooner, I'll buy the Belcan thingie.
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Terje Strømberg
>> Sent: Friday, September 09, 2016 4:23 AM
>> To: "viphone@googlegroups.com Strømberg" <viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> Cc: Terje Strømberg <terjestrmb...@gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: Belkin's coming out with the adapter some of us need
>> 
>> It would be cool if iPhone SE with 3.5mm beats iPhone 7, 7+ hard on the 
>> sales figures. Don’t think so, but …… Camera is too important for sighted 
>> people.
>> 
>> Take care
>> 
>> 
>>> 8. sep. 2016 kl. 23.28 skrev Donald Moore <don.moor...@icloud.com>:
>>> 
>>> You know, if enough people forego the iPhone 7, maybe the 8 will go back to 
>>> the old plug.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
>>> Behalf Of Cristóbal
>>> Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2016 5:06 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: RE: Belkin's coming out with the adapter some of us need
>>> 
>>> You figured that something like this was eventually going to come out by a 
>>> mainstream company  or via a kickstarter campaign.
>>> Off putting though  that you have to shell out an extra $40.00 for
>>> something that’s not even really a mobile solution. Curious to see what 
>>> kind of battery pack designs these same companies are going to come up with 
>>> for those of us who may want  or need that extra backup. There goes another 
>>> $40.00 or $80.00 or  whatever on top of everything else. That and what type 
>>> of solution they’re going to come up with  for all the credit  card swipers 
>>> that are so ubiquitous Appel was actually getting credit yesterday for only 
>>> selling the replacement dongles for $9.00, but I guess this shows they’re 
>>> going to get their pound of flesh one  way or another.
>>> Those dongles are probably viewed as a lost  leader anyway.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
>>> Behalf Of Jonathan Mosen
>>> Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 12:47 PM
>>> To: 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone
>>> Subject: Belkin's coming out with the adapter some of us need
>>> 
>>> Hi all, I really wish Apple had shipped this kind of product in the box, 
>>> but for those who want to upgrade and had legitimate concerns about the 
>>> lack of ability to use wired headphones and charge, here's the solution.
>>> http://www.macrumors.com/2016/09/08/belkin-lightning-audio-adapter-iph
>>> one-7/
>>> Jonathan Mosen
>>> Mosen Consulting
>>> Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training http://Mosen.org
>>> 
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