Yes, I do. You said that we're all forced to update. And I'm telling you 
straight up, publicly, that we're not, otherwise how can I still be on IOS9? 
Feel free to insult me, a few of your messages bought the smile on my face, so 
no worries. All's good, indeed.



Sent from a Braille Sense 

----- Original Message -----
From: Mc3a1rio_Gabriel  <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Date: Tuesday, December 13, 2016 7:44 pm
Subject: Re: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:

>
>
> 
> 
> We are talking about updates on iOS 10 not 9. not new releases.
> Do you still want me to tell you something else. please?
> cheers.
> 
> 
> as 18:23 de 13/12/2016, Rajmund escreveu:
> > Hello,
> > Interesting, my iPad is still happy on 9.3.5. If we truly didn't have a 
> > choice, how come I'm still on 9, please?
> >
> >
> >
> > Sent from a Braille Sense
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Mc3a1rio_Gabriel  <[email protected]>
> > To: [email protected]
> > Date: Tuesday, December 13, 2016 5:08 pm
> > Subject: Re: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:
> >
> >>
> >>          
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> hi Pablo.
> >> Yes apple forces us to do the update.
> >> Sooner or later we have to do it.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> as 16:48 de 13/12/2016, Pablo Cesar Morales escreveu:
> >>
> >> Yes, apple force you tu update. If you have an iPhone new, and you have a 
> >> problem and you call apple, they are no going to give you tech support if 
> >> you don't have installed the last IOs release. So apple decline the tech 
> >> support if you don't have installed the last IOs release. Apple by default 
> >> download the IOs and fills your phone memory. Apple make your life hard 
> >> with hundreds of announcemnts saying that the IOs x  is ready to be 
> >> install.
> >> So, if it is no forcing, looks very similar.
> >>   
> >>   
> >>   
> >>   
> >> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf 
> >> Of Larry Lumpkin
> >> Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2016 11:43 AM
> >> To: [email protected]
> >> Subject: RE: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:
> >>   
> >> No one is forcing you to install an update.  I have not done so and don't 
> >> plan too until the keypad issue is fixed for iphone 7.
> >>   
> >>   
> >> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf 
> >> Of Pablo Cesar Morales
> >> Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2016 10:37 AM
> >> To: [email protected]
> >> Subject: RE: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:
> >>   
> >> Guys,
> >> I was like all of you. So mad with apple, with the fact that they breaks 
> >> accessibility points that were working before and stop working. I was so 
> >> mad because apple force you to install their IOs version, breaking the 
> >> accessibility that we need, and we need to wait months until we are able 
> >> to use our phone like we were doing before. Yes, I was so mad. I tried 
> >> android, and I changed my mind. Apple is better.
> >> Android is several towns behind than IOs regarding accessibility.
> >>   
> >>   
> >>   
> >>   
> >>   
> >>   
> >>   
> >> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf 
> >> Of regina alvarado
> >> Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2016 11:03 AM
> >> To: [email protected]
> >> Subject: Re: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:
> >>   
> >>   
> >> mario, call support as Pete suggested. The more people who call the more 
> >> it will be fixed. If not an option for you, please try Android. I have 
> >> heard it is pretty good, though as with Apple there are some issues too. 
> >> Please call Apple support not email, and help list traffic by helping not 
> >> complaining, please.
> >>   
> >> Reggie and Lex
> >>   
> >>
> >> On Dec 13, 2016, at 8:06 AM, Mário Gabriel <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>          
> >>   
> >> How do you know that apple is looking to it?
> >> Apple always looks, but never solves ...
> >> Is that right?
> >>   
> >> cheers.
> >>   
> >> as 11:43 de 13/12/2016, Amy Ruell escreveu:
> >> Hello all, I see the behavior on my iPhone 7 as well. As most of the 
> >> numbers I call are in my contacts, I don't have too much difficulty. 
> >> However, if there are prompts involved, the only way to do this is to 
> >> swipe to the keypad button and activate it.
> >> Amy
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >>
> >> On Dec 13, 2016, at 6:33 AM, Don Breda <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> Hi Sieghard.
> >> I don't have the problem at all on my iPhone 6 s but my friend has a 7 and 
> >> she does have the problem.
> >>   
> >> The problem is that the keypad disappears once the call is connected.
> >>   
> >> It happens if she uses Siri to make the call and it also happens if she 
> >> goes in to the phone appp and selects the keypad dials the call manually 
> >> as well.
> >>   
> >> Once the call connects the keypad disappears.
> >>   
> >> She is not a good iPhoneuser yet and by the time she fines and enables the 
> >> keypad again its probably to late.
> >>   
> >> My phone does not do this at all.
> >>   
> >> Its frustrating when you need to tenter touch tones to answer menu prompts 
> >> etc.
> >>   
> >> Many people have this issue and many don't.
> >>   
> >> Apple is looking in to it but I don't think they know why it happens for 
> >> some and not others.
> >>   
> >> Thanks.
> >>   
> >> Don
> >>   
> >>   
> >>   
> >> On 12-Dec-16 3:52 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
> >> Hi Don and others,
> >>   
> >> Is this something a lot of people experience? I haven't noticed any 
> >> difference on my 6S Plus ever since I started using iOS 10, I am not using 
> >> the current 10.2 beta so unless it's a problem here, what is exactly the 
> >> issue?
> >> When I make or receive a call I may have to tap to bring up the keypad, 
> >> but that has always been the case at times, but most of the time the 
> >> keypad is there and I actually have to hide it if I want access to any of 
> >> the other buttons.
> >>   
> >> Regards,
> >> Sieghard
> >>   
> >> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf 
> >> Of Don Breda
> >> Sent: Monday, December 12, 2016 12:49 PM
> >> To: VIPhone google group <[email protected]>
> >> Subject: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:
> >>   
> >> I supposeits to soon to tell but I am wondering if the issue where the 
> >> keypad disappears on a phone call when it shouldn't has been resolved?
> >>   
> >> This is an issue appple is aware of but I suspect they haven't nailed it 
> >> down yet so not getting my hopes up.
> >>   
> >> Don
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