And you still didn't answer me.  Suppose it's time to copy and paste. Fine by 
me.  This statement is sooo false:
"> >>>> hi Pablo.
> >>>> Yes apple forces us to do the update.
> >>>> Sooner or later we have to do it." If this was true, how come I'm still 
> >>>> on 9 with the iPad?
Best regards, the big, huge, troll. :P



Sent from a Braille Sense 

----- Original Message -----
From: Mc3a1rio_Gabriel  <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Date: Tuesday, December 13, 2016 9:05 pm
Subject: Re: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:

>
>
> 
> Someone has to tell you. God, you really are a big Troll.
> 
> 
> as 20:50 de 13/12/2016, Rajmund escreveu:
> > Yes, I do. You said that we're all forced to update. And I'm telling you 
> > straight up, publicly, that we're not, otherwise how can I still be on 
> > IOS9? Feel free to insult me, a few of your messages bought the smile on my 
> > face, so no worries. All's good, indeed.
> >
> >
> >
> > Sent from a Braille Sense
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Mc3a1rio_Gabriel  <[email protected]>
> > To: [email protected]
> > Date: Tuesday, December 13, 2016 7:44 pm
> > Subject: Re: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:
> >
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> We are talking about updates on iOS 10 not 9. not new releases.
> >> Do you still want me to tell you something else. please?
> >> cheers.
> >>
> >>
> >> as 18:23 de 13/12/2016, Rajmund escreveu:
> >>> Hello,
> >>> Interesting, my iPad is still happy on 9.3.5. If we truly didn't have a 
> >>> choice, how come I'm still on 9, please?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Sent from a Braille Sense
> >>>
> >>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>> From: Mc3a1rio_Gabriel  <[email protected]>
> >>> To: [email protected]
> >>> Date: Tuesday, December 13, 2016 5:08 pm
> >>> Subject: Re: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:
> >>>
> >>>>           
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> hi Pablo.
> >>>> Yes apple forces us to do the update.
> >>>> Sooner or later we have to do it.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> as 16:48 de 13/12/2016, Pablo Cesar Morales escreveu:
> >>>>
> >>>> Yes, apple force you tu update. If you have an iPhone new, and you have 
> >>>> a problem and you call apple, they are no going to give you tech support 
> >>>> if you don't have installed the last IOs release. So apple decline the 
> >>>> tech support if you don't have installed the last IOs release. Apple by 
> >>>> default download the IOs and fills your phone memory. Apple make your 
> >>>> life hard with hundreds of announcemnts saying that the IOs x  is ready 
> >>>> to be install.
> >>>> So, if it is no forcing, looks very similar.
> >>>>    
> >>>>    
> >>>>    
> >>>>    
> >>>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On 
> >>>> Behalf Of Larry Lumpkin
> >>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2016 11:43 AM
> >>>> To: [email protected]
> >>>> Subject: RE: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:
> >>>>    
> >>>> No one is forcing you to install an update.  I have not done so and 
> >>>> don't plan too until the keypad issue is fixed for iphone 7.
> >>>>    
> >>>>    
> >>>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On 
> >>>> Behalf Of Pablo Cesar Morales
> >>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2016 10:37 AM
> >>>> To: [email protected]
> >>>> Subject: RE: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:
> >>>>    
> >>>> Guys,
> >>>> I was like all of you. So mad with apple, with the fact that they breaks 
> >>>> accessibility points that were working before and stop working. I was so 
> >>>> mad because apple force you to install their IOs version, breaking the 
> >>>> accessibility that we need, and we need to wait months until we are able 
> >>>> to use our phone like we were doing before. Yes, I was so mad. I tried 
> >>>> android, and I changed my mind. Apple is better.
> >>>> Android is several towns behind than IOs regarding accessibility.
> >>>>    
> >>>>    
> >>>>    
> >>>>    
> >>>>    
> >>>>    
> >>>>    
> >>>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On 
> >>>> Behalf Of regina alvarado
> >>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2016 11:03 AM
> >>>> To: [email protected]
> >>>> Subject: Re: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:
> >>>>    
> >>>>    
> >>>> mario, call support as Pete suggested. The more people who call the more 
> >>>> it will be fixed. If not an option for you, please try Android. I have 
> >>>> heard it is pretty good, though as with Apple there are some issues too. 
> >>>> Please call Apple support not email, and help list traffic by helping 
> >>>> not complaining, please.
> >>>>    
> >>>> Reggie and Lex
> >>>>    
> >>>>
> >>>> On Dec 13, 2016, at 8:06 AM, Mário Gabriel <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>>>           
> >>>>    
> >>>> How do you know that apple is looking to it?
> >>>> Apple always looks, but never solves ...
> >>>> Is that right?
> >>>>    
> >>>> cheers.
> >>>>    
> >>>> as 11:43 de 13/12/2016, Amy Ruell escreveu:
> >>>> Hello all, I see the behavior on my iPhone 7 as well. As most of the 
> >>>> numbers I call are in my contacts, I don't have too much difficulty. 
> >>>> However, if there are prompts involved, the only way to do this is to 
> >>>> swipe to the keypad button and activate it.
> >>>> Amy
> >>>>
> >>>> Sent from my iPhone
> >>>>
> >>>> On Dec 13, 2016, at 6:33 AM, Don Breda <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>>> Hi Sieghard.
> >>>> I don't have the problem at all on my iPhone 6 s but my friend has a 7 
> >>>> and she does have the problem.
> >>>>    
> >>>> The problem is that the keypad disappears once the call is connected.
> >>>>    
> >>>> It happens if she uses Siri to make the call and it also happens if she 
> >>>> goes in to the phone appp and selects the keypad dials the call manually 
> >>>> as well.
> >>>>    
> >>>> Once the call connects the keypad disappears.
> >>>>    
> >>>> She is not a good iPhoneuser yet and by the time she fines and enables 
> >>>> the keypad again its probably to late.
> >>>>    
> >>>> My phone does not do this at all.
> >>>>    
> >>>> Its frustrating when you need to tenter touch tones to answer menu 
> >>>> prompts etc.
> >>>>    
> >>>> Many people have this issue and many don't.
> >>>>    
> >>>> Apple is looking in to it but I don't think they know why it happens for 
> >>>> some and not others.
> >>>>    
> >>>> Thanks.
> >>>>    
> >>>> Don
> >>>>    
> >>>>    
> >>>>    
> >>>> On 12-Dec-16 3:52 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
> >>>> Hi Don and others,
> >>>>    
> >>>> Is this something a lot of people experience? I haven't noticed any 
> >>>> difference on my 6S Plus ever since I started using iOS 10, I am not 
> >>>> using the current 10.2 beta so unless it's a problem here, what is 
> >>>> exactly the issue?
> >>>> When I make or receive a call I may have to tap to bring up the keypad, 
> >>>> but that has always been the case at times, but most of the time the 
> >>>> keypad is there and I actually have to hide it if I want access to any 
> >>>> of the other buttons.
> >>>>    
> >>>> Regards,
> >>>> Sieghard
> >>>>    
> >>>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On 
> >>>> Behalf Of Don Breda
> >>>> Sent: Monday, December 12, 2016 12:49 PM
> >>>> To: VIPhone google group <[email protected]>
> >>>> Subject: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:
> >>>>    
> >>>> I supposeits to soon to tell but I am wondering if the issue where the 
> >>>> keypad disappears on a phone call when it shouldn't has been resolved?
> >>>>    
> >>>> This is an issue appple is aware of but I suspect they haven't nailed it 
> >>>> down yet so not getting my hopes up.
> >>>>    
> >>>> Don
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