Well guys, We own apple devices. If the quality of software is decreasing the usability of our phones, apple watches, iPads, etc. We need to complained to apple. We need to talk to them, we need to email them, we need to make noise, we need to make public these problems, so apple will take care about it. But no saying anything about this bugs, or defending the negligence of apple software developers, or just making noise at home. We are no doing anything.
We need to write, call, make public these problems. So apple seeing that their pocket is going to lose some money, then they will improve the software quality. From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Devin Prater Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2016 12:18 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Apple has a serious problem with software quality | ZDNet Android only has real malware issues if one goes outside of the playstore. Same for any open computer, like Mac or Windows. On Wed, Dec 14, 2016 at 9:41 PM Christopher Chaltain <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > wrote: There's much to agree with here, but the article referred to was from ZDNet, and that article did refer to another article which actually had some real information. It wasn't just anecdotal, and it wasn't just some rant from a guy in his basement with his own blog, which is what I was expecting. I would also think that quality of IOS and VoiceOver would be on topic for this list. It could also both be true that IOS has some quality issues and Android has some malware issues. They aren't mutually exclusive! Like I said, there's a lot to agree with below, such as how easy it would be for this to go off topic and just turn into bashing and not productive or constructive at all. On 14/12/16 21:11, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: > Pablo and others, > > > > You can find bunches of articles on anything on Google. I could send you > 50 links of articles which praise Apple and iOS to high heaven, then I > can send you just as many that are the complete opposite and the same > applies to Google/Android. I can probably even find you some die-hard > Blackberry fans who are posting that Blackberry is the best ever and > both iOS and Android are complete BS. I don't think we have to get into > what is better or if iOS is any good or anything like that. The point is > that this is an iOS list, we are all here because we use iOS devices due > to their very good level of accessibility. We all know there are bugs > and that there always will be bugs. We all know that Apple with iOS, > Mac OS, TVOS and Watch OS don't have an exclusive on them, Android has > them, Windows has them, Google Chrome has them and other software like > Jaws, Office, Adobe, Firefox they all have bugs as do all apps. > > This list is and should be about helping each other, answering each > others questions and posting articles about some particularly cool app > or accessory. The list is also about posting about bugs you discover or > think you have discovered, sure you can point out your thoughts that > Apple should do more or that Apple really should have fixed this or that > bug already or during the Beta cycle, but I think these rants which then > result in endless one-liners about how somebody is right or wrong or > should go and get an Android phone if they aren't happy with the iPhone > are just getting old, they usually just rephrase what has already been > said a dozen times over. As you know very well yourself Android isn't > all it's made out to be and while you say you totally would have an > Android phone if you could see there are also thousands of ex-Android > users who can see and who love their new iPhones after making the > switch. Then of course there are those "happy" Android users who bought > Samsung's new flagship Note 7 only to be surprised when the smoke hit > the fan, if this had happened to the iPhone 7 Apple would have been > /crucified and in a much worse way than Samsung./ > > Headlines like your ssubject "Apple has a serious problem with software > quality" are typical link bait, you can go on Google and find lots of > examples for either one, here is just one example that swings the other > way from Forbes: "New Android Malware Strikes At Millions Of Smartphones". > > Sometimes you even find something that is more objective like the > summary of this comparison article: > > iOS 10 vs Android 7.0 Nougat: Conclusion. > > In many respects, Android and iOS are very similar. They're both slick, > refined, competent mobile operating systems. Each has its advantages and > unique features, as well as frustrations and weaknesses. > > > > > > Regards, > > Sieghard > > > > *From:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > [mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> ] *On > Behalf Of *Pablo C. Morales > *Sent:* Wednesday, December 14, 2016 4:42 PM > *To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > *Subject:* Apple has a serious problem with software quality | ZDNet > > > > Look at this article, you can find bunches of them on > google. > > http://www.zdnet.com/article/apple-has-a-serious-problem-with-software-quality/ > > > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or > if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the > owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn > - you can reach Cara at [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]> > <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send > an email to [email protected] > <mailto:viphone%[email protected]> > <mailto:[email protected] > <mailto:viphone%[email protected]> >. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]> > <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or > if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the > owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn > - you can reach Cara at [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]> > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send > an email to [email protected] > <mailto:viphone%[email protected]> > <mailto:[email protected] > <mailto:viphone%[email protected]> >. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]> > <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Christopher (CJ) chaltain at Gmail -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. 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