Joanne,

Apple stresses "accessibility" as a concept which means not just
accessibility for the blind or visually impaired, but also for those with
hearing impairments, physical impairments and even those with mental and
learning disabilities. Throw all of those numbers in a pot and they are not
so small and they do generate good will from those who care about this.
Include all the families and friends of those who benefit from accessible
iPhones and iDevices and while not everybody may buy an iPhone because his
or her blind aunt, nephew or Grandpa can benefit, some may be influenced by
this and the numbers grow even further. In any case, I think Apple has made
a commitment, made this commitment public and they will continue to stick
with it. Hopefully their example may result in others following in their
footsteps. 


Regards,
Sieghard



-----Original Message-----
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Joanne Chua
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2012 6:52 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple's commitment to accessibility [was "Re: a warning to
voice over users concerning IOS 6"]

Hi David,

If that is the case of what you said, we "poor blind people", why Apple
should care on putting voiceover in their touch screen products?
Not only that, Apple also advertise that their products are friendly to
people with access needs.

Just a thought

Regards
Joanne

On 18/09/2012, David Chittenden <dchitten...@gmail.com> wrote:
> You are correct for the Mac. For iOS devices, however, this is not the
case.
> Most of the professional proofs and studies clearly demonstrated that 
> blind peepul, as a whole, did not have the necessary spatial 
> awareness, and attempting to memorise, without good tactile clues, 
> would be almost impossible for most blind people. Therefore, an 
> accessible pure touch-screen device was not expected or required. 
> After all aside from some basic functionality, it couldn't be done anyway.
Those poor blind people.
>
> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On 18/09/2012, at 9:34, Christopher Chaltain <chalt...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I agree with David here, but I also wonder how much of Apple's sales 
>> are effected by their commitment to accessibility. For example, how 
>> many government sales or small business sales or educational sales 
>> wouldn't have even been possible if they weren't able to demonstrate 
>> that they had an accessible solution and meet the various regulations 
>> and laws, at least here in the US? I think this would explode the 
>> 100K figure by quite a bit, although I'm not sure it's possible to 
>> capture such a number. I also don't mean to take away from Apple's 
>> commitment to accessibility. I think their commitment goes beyond 
>> just bottom line dollars and cents, although they are a business, and 
>> I don't think they're doing it entirely out of the kindness of their
corporate hearts.
>>
>> On 17/09/12 16:05, Scott Howell wrote:
>>> David,
>>>
>>> True, but my point is that although a small portion of the overall 
>>> sales, APple still considers this segment worth the investment. I 
>>> would love to know what the real numbers are across all Apple 
>>> products including the Macs.
>>>
>>> On Sep 17, 2012, at 4:19 PM, David Chittenden 
>>> <dchitten...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Do not consider 100,000 iPhones to blind folk to be much of a 
>>>> market in this case. This number represents 0.3% of 1 quarter year 
>>>> of Apple's iPhone sales, but includes all models of iPhones for the
past 3 years.
>>>> In other words, if Apple were to stop supporting VO, they wouldn't 
>>>> even notice the tiny bump to their profits. Apple is not supporting 
>>>> concepts of universal access for their bottom line.
>>>
>>
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