Hello all speaking of the sighted I tell sighted iPhone or other iDevice users about VoiceOver and they are just amazed, some to the extent that they are delighted in what Apple has done even though they may never have met a disabled person in their lives. So I am spreading the word for sure.

On 18/09/2012 06:30, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
Joanne,

Apple stresses "accessibility" as a concept which means not just
accessibility for the blind or visually impaired, but also for those with
hearing impairments, physical impairments and even those with mental and
learning disabilities. Throw all of those numbers in a pot and they are not
so small and they do generate good will from those who care about this.
Include all the families and friends of those who benefit from accessible
iPhones and iDevices and while not everybody may buy an iPhone because his
or her blind aunt, nephew or Grandpa can benefit, some may be influenced by
this and the numbers grow even further. In any case, I think Apple has made
a commitment, made this commitment public and they will continue to stick
with it. Hopefully their example may result in others following in their
footsteps.


Regards,
Sieghard



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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf
Of Joanne Chua
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2012 6:52 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Apple's commitment to accessibility [was "Re: a warning to
voice over users concerning IOS 6"]

Hi David,

If that is the case of what you said, we "poor blind people", why Apple
should care on putting voiceover in their touch screen products?
Not only that, Apple also advertise that their products are friendly to
people with access needs.

Just a thought

Regards
Joanne

On 18/09/2012, David Chittenden <[email protected]> wrote:
You are correct for the Mac. For iOS devices, however, this is not the
case.
Most of the professional proofs and studies clearly demonstrated that
blind peepul, as a whole, did not have the necessary spatial
awareness, and attempting to memorise, without good tactile clues,
would be almost impossible for most blind people. Therefore, an
accessible pure touch-screen device was not expected or required.
After all aside from some basic functionality, it couldn't be done anyway.
Those poor blind people.

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: [email protected]
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone

On 18/09/2012, at 9:34, Christopher Chaltain <[email protected]> wrote:

I agree with David here, but I also wonder how much of Apple's sales
are effected by their commitment to accessibility. For example, how
many government sales or small business sales or educational sales
wouldn't have even been possible if they weren't able to demonstrate
that they had an accessible solution and meet the various regulations
and laws, at least here in the US? I think this would explode the
100K figure by quite a bit, although I'm not sure it's possible to
capture such a number. I also don't mean to take away from Apple's
commitment to accessibility. I think their commitment goes beyond
just bottom line dollars and cents, although they are a business, and
I don't think they're doing it entirely out of the kindness of their
corporate hearts.

On 17/09/12 16:05, Scott Howell wrote:
David,

True, but my point is that although a small portion of the overall
sales, APple still considers this segment worth the investment. I
would love to know what the real numbers are across all Apple
products including the Macs.

On Sep 17, 2012, at 4:19 PM, David Chittenden
<[email protected]>
wrote:

Do not consider 100,000 iPhones to blind folk to be much of a
market in this case. This number represents 0.3% of 1 quarter year
of Apple's iPhone sales, but includes all models of iPhones for the
past 3 years.
In other words, if Apple were to stop supporting VO, they wouldn't
even notice the tiny bump to their profits. Apple is not supporting
concepts of universal access for their bottom line.


--
Christopher (CJ)
chaltain at Gmail

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