Hi David,

If that is the case of what you said, we "poor blind people", why
Apple should care on putting voiceover in their touch screen products?
Not only that, Apple also advertise that their products are friendly
to people with access needs.

Just a thought

Regards
Joanne

On 18/09/2012, David Chittenden <dchitten...@gmail.com> wrote:
> You are correct for the Mac. For iOS devices, however, this is not the case.
> Most of the professional proofs and studies clearly demonstrated that blind
> peepul, as a whole, did not have the necessary spatial awareness, and
> attempting to memorise, without good tactile clues, would be almost
> impossible for most blind people. Therefore, an accessible pure touch-screen
> device was not expected or required. After all aside from some basic
> functionality, it couldn't be done anyway. Those poor blind people.
>
> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
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> On 18/09/2012, at 9:34, Christopher Chaltain <chalt...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I agree with David here, but I also wonder how much of Apple's sales are
>> effected by their commitment to accessibility. For example, how many
>> government sales or small business sales or educational sales wouldn't
>> have even been possible if they weren't able to demonstrate that they
>> had an accessible solution and meet the various regulations and laws, at
>> least here in the US? I think this would explode the 100K figure by
>> quite a bit, although I'm not sure it's possible to capture such a
>> number. I also don't mean to take away from Apple's commitment to
>> accessibility. I think their commitment goes beyond just bottom line
>> dollars and cents, although they are a business, and I don't think
>> they're doing it entirely out of the kindness of their corporate hearts.
>>
>> On 17/09/12 16:05, Scott Howell wrote:
>>> David,
>>>
>>> True, but my point is that although a small portion of the overall sales,
>>> APple still considers this segment worth the investment. I would love to
>>> know what the real numbers are across all Apple products including the
>>> Macs.
>>>
>>> On Sep 17, 2012, at 4:19 PM, David Chittenden <dchitten...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Do not consider 100,000 iPhones to blind folk to be much of a market in
>>>> this case. This number represents 0.3% of 1 quarter year of Apple's
>>>> iPhone sales, but includes all models of iPhones for the past 3 years.
>>>> In other words, if Apple were to stop supporting VO, they wouldn't even
>>>> notice the tiny bump to their profits. Apple is not supporting concepts
>>>> of universal access for their bottom line.
>>>
>>
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