I do not have a problem with the rotor the way it is.  I personally find it 
easy to switch between words letters headings etc.  This is perhaps because I 
do not have that many items included in the rotor.  The one I use the most is 
headings and characters and volume.
Cheers,
Cris 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Marie
Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2017 10:29 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: WHAT DO YOU ALL THINK?

This is one of the few places where I think that Talk Back on the Android is 
doing a better job. Instead of the rotor there is the Global context menu or 
the Local context menu. Talk Back will now let you change the gesture to invoke 
either of these menus and once there, you use the normal swiping that we are 
all accustomed to. I got to try this out with a newer version of Talk Back and 
was quite impressed. In the past the gesture to invoke these menus was all but 
impossible to use.
JMT
Marie


-----Original Message-----
From: Mary Otten
Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2017 3:27 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: WHAT DO YOU ALL THINK?



I do think it would be a good idea if the top level menu which is accessed 
via the rotor could be made shorter. I think they did a good job with the 
language rotor, pick the language setting and then flick up and down to 
select your language. Maybe they could do something like that splitting up 
web elements and document navigation type elements, such as word line and 
character. Of course, it can be argued that that is an artificial 
separation, because you do often want to navigate by words on the web or, in 
a document, maybe by headings. But nothing is perfect, and I do think fewer 
twists of the rotor and Moore up and down flicks could be used.


> On Jan 19, 2017, at 3:00 PM, 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone 
> <viphone@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> HI all,
>
>
> I've not written for a good while but have had something nagging around 
> that I wanted views upon, so here it is!
>
>
> As our i devices have grown in features, so I have found that the rotor 
> system has become rather more of an irksome task. I have most of the items 
> offered on my rotor and have noticed a certain amount of wrist strain in 
> sometimes needing to turn it several times in succession on web pages, 
> etc.
>
>
> I am wondering if this rotor needs to be re-constructed, perhaps having 
> two so that you can divide the rotor into better sections and change the 
> rotor setting (to 1 or 2) via a designated keystroke.
>
>
> First, am I the only one who finds this a little cumbersome and, secondly, 
> what do you think to the kind of idea I'd like to suggest?
>
>
> If indeed people think they'd like to see a change, perhaps you could give 
> your ideas a whirl here also and then we can all speak with a number of 
> voices to tell Apple what we think we'd like/need.
>
>
> I look forward to receiving some feedback on this issue.
>
>
> Thanks.
>
>
> Carol P - UK
>
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