3D touch, y'all. tripple press near the bottom of the screen to turn on Voiceover. Or, they may make the power button longer and make the lower half a home button.
Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 7, 2017, at 9:05 AM, lenron brown <lenro...@gmail.com> wrote: > > I don't like the idea of touch Id going away. It's nice to be able to > just place my finger there and my phone unlocks or I log in an app. I > don't want to have to rely on having to point the camera at my face to > do all that. > >> On 9/7/17, Mr. Ed <pink...@abe.midco.net> wrote: >> You have to have an accessible face for that to work. LOL >> Mr. Ed >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf >> Of Sieghard Weitzel >> Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2017 11:15 PM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: RE: Goodbye, home button? Get ready for iPhone's biggest change - >> CNET >> >> How is it not accessible if all you have to do is look into the front >> camera? >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: 'Ray T. Mahorney' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] >> Sent: Wednesday, September 6, 2017 9:06 PM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: Goodbye, home button? Get ready for iPhone's biggest change - >> CNET >> >> they would really drop the ball in the area of accessibility if they did not >> which brings me to face recognition. they plan to make that accessible how? >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Sieghard Weitzel >> Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2017 00:01 >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: RE: Goodbye, home button? Get ready for iPhone's biggest change - >> CNET >> >> I have little doubt that if there is no more physical home button that Apple >> will make the alternative virtual home button fully accessible. >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf >> Of M. Taylor >> Sent: Wednesday, September 6, 2017 4:49 PM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: RE: Goodbye, home button? Get ready for iPhone's biggest change - >> CNET >> >> Hello Larry, >> >> Many of Androids most popular devices, for many, many years, have not used a >> physical Home button. Instead, they use soft, or on-screen) navigation >> buttons located on the bottom row of the display. Unlike the S8 series, >> however, these navigation buttons were always available. This is to say, >> they did not scroll off the display. >> >> Until the S 8 series, Samsung was the only major brand that used a physical >> Home button on all of its Android devices. >> >> None of my Android phones, with the exception of the S 6, have physical Home >> buttons; so I am no stranger to the technology. However, I strongly believe >> that because of its physical Home button, I tended to gravitate towards my >> S >> 6 more than the others. >> >> Anyway, in the case of the new s 8 series, there is a soft home button >> located in the center bottom row of the display. >> With the S 8, unfortunately, the Home button can scroll off the screen. >> This is kind of a pain, to say the least--especially when one wishes to >> quickly return to his/her starting point. >> >> Apple tends to implement new technology with more flare and feasibility than >> its competition. Let's hope it continues that standard. >> >> Mark >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf >> Of Larry Lumpkin >> Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2017 3:32 PM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: RE: Goodbye, home button? Get ready for iPhone's biggest change - >> CNET >> >> If apple removes the physical home button, how will the blind access it? >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf >> Of M. Taylor >> Sent: Wednesday, September 6, 2017 5:26 PM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Goodbye, home button? Get ready for iPhone's biggest change - CNET >> >> Hello Everyone, >> >> I hope you find the following article interesting. >> >> As for me, I can tell you that I definitely miss a physical Home button, >> with integrated Touch ID, on the Samsung Galaxy S 8, so much so, that I have >> reverted back to my Galaxy S 6. >> >> If Apple does remove a bezel-based Home button, I certainly hope that it >> comes up with a better design solution than Samsung. >> >> Mark >> >> CNET News - Wednesday, September 6, 2017 at 1:14 PM Goodbye, home button? >> Get ready for iPhone's biggest change - CNET >> >> What will life be like without one of these? Maybe we already know the >> answer. >> Sarah Tew/CNET >> When Apple unveils its new high-end iPhone on Sept. 12, it's widely expected >> to do away with the most iconic part of its handset: the home button. If the >> rumors are true, the all-screen design of the so-called iPhone 8 means no >> room for a bottom bezel, and thus no room for a physical home button (and >> its Touch ID fingerprint sensor). It will be the biggest design change to >> hit the iPhone in its 10-plus year history -- a radical change to the most >> basic usage element that has existed on the phone since day one. >> >> A glyph that appears in the HomePod firmware could be the rumored iPhone 8. >> MacRumors >> Or maybe it won't be that shocking a change at all. >> In fact, Apple has been nudging millions of iPhone owners with changes to >> homescreen navigation for the past several years. There are already pieces >> in place to suggest the transition may not be as wild and weird as you might >> expect. Android phones have already done it, and the iPhone can do it too. >> The current iPhone's no-click home button could be training wheels for how >> the iPhone 8 will work Here's the funny thing: The iPhone's home button is >> already gone. Instead of a physical button, 2016's iPhone 7 and 7 Plus >> featured a solid-state panel that used subtle vibration to simulate a button >> press. It initially drew mixed opinions: some felt the click was weird; >> others liked the haptic thump. But the point is, I got used to it, and most >> people I know did, too. >> It feels a bit like a real button, but it's not. And maybe that's how the >> iPhone 8 display will work, too. >> Enhanced vibration (called "Taptic Engine") give the iPhone and Apple Watch >> their taps and thumps, and it already does a few things on the iPhone 6S and >> later models to feel tactile in iOS 10 (scroll wheels in settings, or >> pressing in on app icons). Pressing in on a part of the screen will probably >> feel the same as pressing in on the solid-state home button does now. The >> bigger problem, of course, becomes how to relocate that Touch ID fingerprint >> sensor -- or come up with a replacement. (More on that below.) Control >> Center is an app launcher away from being the home button replacement >> iPhones currently stick four apps at the bottom of the home screen, locking >> them in place as you swipe to additional pages: useful, but inefficient. >> Swiping up for the Control Center usually accomplishes more, getting to >> settings and even some app shortcuts fast. Control Center is getting >> expanded in iOS 11, where it now offers a single page of user-configurable >> widgets and switches. But if that same updated Control Center page had a >> mini dock at the bottom for those same apps -- and/or a virtual home button >> -- it would basically be a one-stop shortcut. The problem with exiling the >> home button to the dock, though, is that it turns a single action -- >> pressing the handy home button that we have now -- into a two-step process: >> swiping first and then clicking the screen. >> 3D Touch could be better utilized for home screen shortcuts It still feels >> like the variable pressure-sensitive 3D Touch technology that iPhones 6S and >> later use is way underutilized, to the point where it feels unnecessary. But >> what if pressing down on the home screen opened up sublayers, or app folders >> beneath? Maybe pressing down on the bottom of the screen could launch back >> to the home area, or Control Center. 3D Touch is there, and it's >> theoretically versatile... now Apple just needs to put it to better use. >> >> One-screen access to everything: is this is the post-home-button home >> screen? >> Sarah Tew/CNET >> iOS 11 on the iPad could be a preview of a no-home button iPhone The iPad >> has already started exploring new ways of navigation in iOS 11. >> (The beta has been out since June, and the final version will likely be >> available in mid-September.) The app dock adds a lot of favorite apps for >> quick shortcuts, making better use of the iPad's additional screen real >> estate. It's not a massive change, but it's better than what it was in iOS >> 10, and better than the Touch Bar on recent MacBook Pros. The swipe-up app >> dock could be a model for what the iPhone 8 app area looks like. Maybe >> something on a smaller scale, with nested menus? I just want to get to what >> I need faster. >> On an iPad Pro with iOS 11, swiping up brings a dashboard with open apps, >> plus Control Center. It's a single place to swap between apps or adjust >> settings. Basically, it's a type of Home Screen, buried beneath the grid of >> apps that is currently called the Home Screen. >> Maybe that's what Apple could do with an iPhone 8 without a home button. >> The big question: Will Face ID be a stand-in to Touch ID, or a second >> option? >> Ultimately, there are plenty of workarounds for pulling the home button, >> many of which Apple has already laid the groundwork for. But the bigger >> question remains: what happens to Touch ID? Reports say that the top-end >> iPhone will ditch it. I still find that hard to believe. Touch ID is still >> pushing its way through Apple's product line -- it was added to MacBook Pros >> in 2016 -- and it's the key to Apple Pay, which still has a ways to go to >> gain traction at retailers in the US. >> Why get rid of Touch ID now? I could see facial recognition being a new, >> additional unlocking method to live alongside Touch ID, but I think it might >> take more time to make it truly seamless. I also wonder what sorts of >> accessibility concerns would arise from removing Touch ID and adding facial >> recognition instead. For instance, will banks and other key app vendors who >> have warmed to Touch ID be ready to sign off on facial recognition being >> used to access financial records? Supposedly, Apple's use of infrared >> scanning will allow iPhone unlocks in the dark, and avoid the "hack" that >> unlocks Samsung phones with photos of the user. But that's all theoretical >> until we see it in action. >> >> The side-mounted power button of the Sony Xperia Z5 doubles as a fingerprint >> reader. >> Andrew Hoyle/CNET >> Unless Apple's facial recognition cameras on the next iPhone that are better >> than I could possibly imagine -- effectively perfect -- I still think Touch >> ID needs to exist. And if the home button is removed, Touch ID's functions >> need to be relocated. Maybe it could live on the back of the iPhone -- where >> Samsung, LG, Google and others have already put their fingerprint sensors -- >> or on the side, where Sony has experimented. But the question of what >> happens to Touch ID and mobile payments is the biggest challenge to removing >> to the Home Button. >> The rest already seems pretty sensible. 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