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On Thu, Sep 7, 2017 at 6:21 PM +0100, "Robin" <robin-mel...@comcast.net> wrote:










In MyHumble Opinion, the ONLY alternative  is to make The Device 
respond to a Specific Person's Voice & Only their Voice because 
Facial Recognition may Not be Secure in Terms of Privacy
Just Sayin
At 09:06 PM 9/6/2017, you wrote:
>they would really drop the ball in the area of accessibility if they 
>did not which brings me to face recognition. they plan to make that 
>accessible how?
>
>-----Original Message----- From: Sieghard Weitzel
>Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2017 00:01
>To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>Subject: RE: Goodbye, home button? Get ready for iPhone's biggest 
>change - CNET
>
>I have little doubt that if there is no more physical home button 
>that Apple will make the alternative virtual home button fully accessible.
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>Behalf Of M. Taylor
>Sent: Wednesday, September 6, 2017 4:49 PM
>To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>Subject: RE: Goodbye, home button? Get ready for iPhone's biggest 
>change - CNET
>
>Hello Larry,
>
>Many of Androids most popular devices, for many, many years, have 
>not used a physical Home button.  Instead, they use soft, or 
>on-screen) navigation buttons located on the bottom row of the 
>display.  Unlike the S8 series, however, these navigation buttons 
>were always available.  This is to say, they did not scroll off the display.
>
>Until the S 8 series, Samsung was the only major brand that used a 
>physical Home button on all of its Android devices.
>
>None of my Android phones, with the exception of the S 6, have 
>physical Home buttons; so I am no stranger to the 
>technology.  However, I strongly believe that because of its 
>physical Home button, I tended to gravitate towards my S 6 more than 
>the others.
>
>Anyway, in the case of the new s 8 series, there is a soft home 
>button located in the center bottom row of the display.
>With the S 8, unfortunately, the Home button can scroll off the 
>screen. This is kind of a pain, to say the least--especially when 
>one wishes to quickly return to his/her starting point.
>
>Apple tends to implement new technology with more flare and 
>feasibility than its competition.  Let's hope it continues that standard.
>
>Mark
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>Behalf Of Larry Lumpkin
>Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2017 3:32 PM
>To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>Subject: RE: Goodbye, home button? Get ready for iPhone's biggest 
>change - CNET
>
>If apple removes the physical home button, how will the blind access it?
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>Behalf Of M. Taylor
>Sent: Wednesday, September 6, 2017 5:26 PM
>To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>Subject: Goodbye, home button? Get ready for iPhone's biggest change - CNET
>
>Hello Everyone,
>
>I hope you find the following article interesting.
>
>As for me, I can tell you that I definitely miss a physical Home 
>button, with integrated Touch ID, on the Samsung Galaxy S 8, so much 
>so, that I have reverted back to my Galaxy S 6.
>
>If Apple does remove a bezel-based Home button, I  certainly hope 
>that it comes up with a better design solution than Samsung.
>
>Mark
>
>CNET News - Wednesday, September 6, 2017 at 1:14 PM Goodbye, home 
>button? Get ready for iPhone's biggest change - CNET
>
>What will life be like without one of these? Maybe we already know the answer.
>Sarah Tew/CNET
>When Apple unveils its new high-end iPhone on Sept. 12, it's widely 
>expected to do away with the most iconic part of its handset: the 
>home button. If the rumors are true, the all-screen design of the 
>so-called iPhone 8 means no room for a bottom bezel, and thus no 
>room for a physical home button (and its Touch ID fingerprint 
>sensor). It will be the biggest design change to hit the iPhone in 
>its 10-plus year history -- a radical change to the most basic usage 
>element that has existed on the phone since day one.
>
>A glyph that appears in the HomePod firmware could be the rumored iPhone 8.
>MacRumors
>Or maybe it won't be that shocking a change at all.
>In fact, Apple has been nudging millions of iPhone owners with 
>changes to homescreen navigation for the past several years. There 
>are already pieces in place to suggest the transition may not be as 
>wild and weird as you might expect. Android phones have already done 
>it, and the iPhone can do it too.
>The current iPhone's no-click home button could be training wheels 
>for how the iPhone 8 will work Here's the funny thing: The iPhone's 
>home button is already gone. Instead of a physical button, 2016's 
>iPhone 7 and 7 Plus featured a solid-state panel that used subtle 
>vibration to simulate a button press. It initially drew mixed 
>opinions: some felt the click was weird; others liked the haptic 
>thump. But the point is, I got used to it, and most people I know did, too.
>It feels a bit like a real button, but it's not. And maybe that's 
>how the iPhone 8 display will work, too.
>Enhanced vibration (called "Taptic Engine") give the iPhone and 
>Apple Watch their taps and thumps, and it already does a few things 
>on the iPhone 6S and later models to feel tactile in iOS 10 (scroll 
>wheels in settings, or pressing in on app icons). Pressing in on a 
>part of the screen will probably feel the same as pressing in on the 
>solid-state home button does now. The bigger problem, of course, 
>becomes how to relocate that Touch ID fingerprint sensor -- or come 
>up with a replacement. (More on that below.) Control Center is an 
>app launcher away from being the home button replacement iPhones 
>currently stick four apps at the bottom of the home screen, locking 
>them in place as you swipe to additional pages: useful, but inefficient.
>Swiping up for the Control Center usually accomplishes more, getting 
>to settings and even some app shortcuts fast. Control Center is 
>getting expanded in iOS 11, where it now offers a single page of 
>user-configurable widgets and switches. But if that same updated 
>Control Center page had a mini dock at the bottom for those same 
>apps -- and/or a virtual home button
>-- it would basically be a one-stop shortcut. The problem with 
>exiling the home button to the dock, though, is that it turns a 
>single action --
>pressing the handy home button that we have now -- into a two-step process:
>swiping first and then clicking the screen.
>3D Touch could be better utilized for home screen shortcuts It still 
>feels like the variable pressure-sensitive 3D Touch technology that 
>iPhones 6S and later use is way underutilized, to the point where it 
>feels unnecessary. But what if pressing down on the home screen 
>opened up sublayers, or app folders beneath? Maybe pressing down on 
>the bottom of the screen could launch back to the home area, or 
>Control Center. 3D Touch is there, and it's theoretically 
>versatile... now Apple just needs to put it to better use.
>
>One-screen access to everything: is this is the post-home-button home screen?
>Sarah Tew/CNET
>iOS 11 on the iPad could be a preview of a no-home button iPhone The 
>iPad has already started exploring new ways of navigation in iOS 11.
>(The beta has been out since June, and the final version will likely 
>be available in mid-September.) The app dock adds a lot of favorite 
>apps for quick shortcuts, making better use of the iPad's additional 
>screen real estate. It's not a massive change, but it's better than 
>what it was in iOS 10, and better than the Touch Bar on recent 
>MacBook Pros. The swipe-up app dock could be a model for what the 
>iPhone 8 app area looks like. Maybe something on a smaller scale, 
>with nested menus? I just want to get to what I need faster.
>On an iPad Pro with iOS 11, swiping up brings a dashboard with open 
>apps, plus Control Center. It's a single place to swap between apps 
>or adjust settings. Basically, it's a type of Home Screen, buried 
>beneath the grid of apps that is currently called the Home Screen.
>Maybe that's what Apple could do with an iPhone 8 without a home button.
>The big question: Will Face ID be a stand-in to Touch ID, or a second option?
>Ultimately, there are plenty of workarounds for pulling the home 
>button, many of which Apple has already laid the groundwork for. But 
>the bigger question remains: what happens to Touch ID? Reports say 
>that the top-end iPhone will ditch it. I still find that hard to 
>believe. Touch ID is still pushing its way through Apple's product 
>line -- it was added to MacBook Pros in 2016 -- and it's the key to 
>Apple Pay, which still has a ways to go to gain traction at 
>retailers in the US.
>Why get rid of Touch ID now? I could see facial recognition being a 
>new, additional unlocking method to live alongside Touch ID, but I 
>think it might take more time to make it truly seamless. I also 
>wonder what sorts of accessibility concerns would arise from 
>removing Touch ID and adding facial recognition instead. For 
>instance, will banks and other key app vendors who have warmed to 
>Touch ID be ready to sign off on facial recognition being used to 
>access financial records? Supposedly, Apple's use of infrared 
>scanning will allow iPhone unlocks in the dark, and avoid the "hack" 
>that unlocks Samsung phones with photos of the user. But that's all 
>theoretical until we see it in action.
>
>The side-mounted power button of the Sony Xperia Z5 doubles as a 
>fingerprint reader.
>Andrew Hoyle/CNET
>Unless Apple's facial recognition cameras on the next iPhone that 
>are better than I could possibly imagine -- effectively perfect -- I 
>still think Touch ID needs to exist. And if the home button is 
>removed, Touch ID's functions need to be relocated. Maybe it could 
>live on the back of the iPhone -- where Samsung, LG, Google and 
>others have already put their fingerprint sensors --
>or on the side, where Sony has experimented. But the question of 
>what happens to Touch ID and mobile payments is the biggest 
>challenge to removing to the Home Button.
>The rest already seems pretty sensible. I'm already starting to 
>learn to live without it.
>
>Original Article at:
>https://www.cnet.com/news/iphone-8-home-button-biggest-change/#ftag=CAD590a5
>1e
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