This is the best ad vice so far, as it clarifies the issue so well.   I 
understand the other bits and that is a common ip address to 
access domestic routers and similar network gear.

Many thanks, BobH.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "M. Taylor" <mk...@ucla.edu>
To: <viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Monday, May 07, 2018 7:48 PM
Subject: RE: WiFi ports


Hello Bob,

Generally speaking I strongly recommend against using any wireless provider's 
WiFi connection system.  In some cases, one may obtain 
a standalone MODEM from the provider, one without any WiFi capability.  Then, 
one can simply purchase a third-party WiFi router for 
approximately $50 and use it to setup a WiFi network.

In other situations, one may prefer to purchase both the MODEM and the WiFi 
router from a third-party retailer such as Best Buy.

In many cases, the provider does not offer a stand-alone MODEM and it may not 
be possible to obtain a third-party MODEM that is 
compatible with the wireless provider's network.  In these instances, either 
ask the provider to disable the WiFi signal on the 
MODEM and then attach a third-party router to the provider's MODEM.  Disabling 
the wireless provider's WiFi signal, on the MODEM is 
not a prerequisite to using any third-party router, however.  This is to say, 
without contacting the wireless provider, at all, one 
can simply purchase a third-party router, and attach it to the wireless 
provider's MODEM and it will work after a simple setup 
procedure.  Some people prefer to have the wireless provider's WiFi signal 
disabled in order to reduce confusion as to which WiFi 
network to select when connecting devices.  This is not really a problem, 
however, after one customizes the name of one's WiFi 
network.

The bottom line on all of this is that I strongly suggest that you purchase a 
Cisco-Linksys router from your local retailer and use 
it for your home WiFi network.  Then you can connect as many devices as you 
like without fear of being limited by your wireless 
provider.

Using a third-party, stand-alone router such as NetGear or Cisco-Linksys, also 
adds a layer of privacy from the wireless provider 
that I greatly appreciate.

You can access the setup/software configuration system on both the NetGear and 
Cisco-Linksys devices by simply entering a URL 
address from any browser connected to the router.  For example, the default URL 
for all Cisco-Linksys routers is 192.168.1.1.

Finally, in order to setup a router, without installing some kind of software, 
you will need to physically connect a computer to the 
router via an Ethernet cable.  Once you have configured the router, however, 
you can, should you choose remove that Ethernet cable 
and connect to the router, wirelessly.

I realize that this is a lot of information to absorb but the process is really 
quite simple and straight-forward.

In my opinion, I think that the benefits of setting up one's own home WiFi 
router network, as opposed to using a wireless provider's 
WiFi network, is well worth any effort.

Good Luck,

Mark
-----Original Message-----
From: 'RobH.' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
Sent: Monday, May 07, 2018 1:00 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: WiFi ports

No, not done that with routers.  Sure someone suggested 6 wifi devices was set 
as a limit with some providers,  but we have 8 wifi 
hand-helds amongst us alone.  Echo now up to 4,  not sure about security 
cameras since i DON'T DEAL WITH THEM.  It's not difficult 
to see how the modern household soon gets cluttered with this stuff and so does 
the bandwidth requirement.

BobH.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Sieghard Weitzel" <siegh...@live.ca>
To: <viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Monday, May 07, 2018 7:06 AM
Subject: RE: WiFi ports


How many devices are you trying to connect? I think there is a better chance 
something is wrong with your router, have you done
firmware updates and rebooted it?

Regards,
Sieghard

-----Original Message-----
From: 'RobH.' via VIPhone <viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, May 6, 2018 1:27 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: WiFi ports

i have heard that some routers have limits on how many wifi connections they 
can handle or assign details to, and we are failing to
connect additional devices. Even domestic appliances are being fitted with wifi 
now for some reason.

BobH.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ben Mustill-Rose" <b...@benmr.com>
To: <viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2018 8:31 PM
Subject: Re: WiFi ports


Why do you feel you need to do this Bob?

On 5/6/18, 'RobH.' via VIPhone <viphone@googlegroups.com> wrote:
> For clarity:  do these switches accept wifi connections?  it is an excess of
> wireless devices that is exceeding router capacity.
>
> Thanks, BobH.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Sieghard Weitzel" <siegh...@live.ca>
> To: <viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2018 8:20 PM
> Subject: RE: WiFi ports
>
>
> Do you mean you want to plug more devices into your router than it has
> ports? If so just look for a 5-port or 8-port desktop switch
> which all companies make, Linksys, D-Link, Netgear etc.
> You use one of the ports of your router (most of them have 4 ports) and plug
> in the desktop switch and then you have those 5 or 8
> ports available (depending on which one you buy). I have a Cisco 16-port
> small business switch at my store which has 8 regular and 8
> POE ports power over ethernet, those are ports used for example if you have
> Ip phones which need the network connection but also
> require power). Often you can power POE devices with a separate adapter, but
> if you have POE ports on your router the CAD5E or CAD6
> cable provides the power for the device as well as the wired connection to
> your network
>
> Here is one example:
> NETGEAR 5-port Gigabit Desktop Switch in Metal Case - Essentials Edition
> (GS305)
> https://www.amazon.ca/NETGEAR-5-port-Gigabit-Desktop-Switch/dp/B00QR6XFHQ
>
> Regards,
> Sieghard
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: 'RobH.' via VIPhone <viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Sent: Sunday, May 6, 2018 11:24 AM
> To: viphone <viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: WiFi ports
>
> Hi,  what solutions do people have when your router can no longer accept any
> more pods/pads/phones/etc?
>
> A device to hook to an rj45 port/socket would be good.
>
> Thoughts please?
>
> Tia, BobH.
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