Hi Craig, I am pretty sure the iPhone SE will definitely still get iOS 13 next fall and it’s possible it may even still get iOS 14 in 2020. I am in the same boat with my 6S Plus, the 6S/6S Plus and iPhone SE all were released with iOS 9 in 2015. In the past Apple supported their devices with 5 versions I think, so that would be iOS 9, 10, 11, 12 this year and 13 next year. However, this year they broke this rule by giving iOS 12 to the iPhone 5S which was released in 2013 with iOS 7, if this 5-year rule applied the 5S would have started with iOS 7, received iOS 8, 9, 10 and 11 would have been the end last fall, but Apple already said in their June keynote that the 5S would get iOS 12. Maybe that is because iOS 12 is more of a bug fixing and efficiency version rather than a new features version, but then again as iOS matures groundbreaking new features will be less frequent just as groundbreaking new hardware designs and features will be less frequent so maybe most devices going forward will support 5 additional iOS versions in addition to the one they were released with. Anyhow, for me it would be fairly logical that at least in the fall of 2020 when iOS 13 will be replaced by iOS 14 that I would then upgrade my 6S Plus to whatever phone is fairly at the top of the list then. This would mean I have had my 6S Plus for 5 years and I think I would be quite satisfied with that if it continues to work for another 2 years and who knows, if apple comes out with something pretty cool next fall I might upgrade already then.
Regards, Sieghard From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Craig Werner Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2018 7:38 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Seeking Advice on Upgrading from iPhone 5 to iPhone SE Good call, Kelly. The fact that Apple has discontinued the SE doesn't ruffle me very much, provided, of course, that at least one iOs series to come will work on it. As they say, que sera sera. Craig On Thu, Sep 13, 2018 at 10:08 AM Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca<mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote: I am quite sure they will sell them and people will happily buy them, maybe you can snatch a deal for any of the remaining SE's, 6S's or 6's. -----Original Message----- From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> <viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Mike Arrigo Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2018 6:53 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Seeking Advice on Upgrading from iPhone 5 to iPhone SE I wonder what the apple stores will do with the SE phones that are left in their inventory? Do they sell them or send them back to Apple's headquarters. Original message: > Craig, > My prediction proved true. Apple today discontinued the iPhone SE. it > has a boatload of SE phones that it needs to unload and carriers have > to meet their quota or buy phones that they can't sell. > Kelly <div id="DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2"><br /> <table > style="border-top: 1px solid #D3D4DE;"> > <tr> > <td style="width: 55px; padding-top: 13px;"><a > href="https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail&utm_term=icon"; > target="_blank"><img > src="https://ipmcdn.avast.com/images/icons/icon-envelope-tick-round-orange-animated-no-repeat-v1.gif"; > alt="" width="46" height="29" style="width: 46px; height: 29px;" > /></a></td> > <td style="width: 470px; padding-top: 12px; color: > #41424e; > font-size: 13px; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; > line-height: 18px;">Virus-free. <a > href="https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail&utm_term=link"; > target="_blank" style="color: > #4453ea;">www.avast.com<http://www.avast.com></a> > </td> > </tr> > </table><a href="#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2" width="1" > height="1"></a></div> > On 9/12/18, Craig Werner <coffeeb...@gmail.com<mailto:coffeeb...@gmail.com>> > wrote: >> Hello, Kelly and everyone. >> Interesting about the prerogatives iPhone vendors have. This makes >> good sense in a competitive environment which is getting more >> competitive. I do indeed live in a big city where numerous vendors >> jockey for customers. Since I do a lot of traveling away from my >> home and often pass through rural areas, I like to have reasonable >> assurance I'll get a good signal. In addition, I have never had a >> dispute with my carrier. I know I can get a lower priced plan from >> Brand X, but for the time being, I'm making no moves. >> Again, thanks to everyone for a lively discussion. >> Craig >> On 9/10/18, Kelly Pierce <kellyt...@gmail.com<mailto:kellyt...@gmail.com>> >> wrote: >>> What many do not realize is the pressure phone companies have to >>> maintain a relationship with Apple. They are required to buy a >>> certain number of phones and sell them at any price they wish. As a >>> partner, the big phone companies may get secret information, such as >>> advanced notice of Apple discontinuing the SE. Apple needs to move >>> this inventory of old phones and AT&T needs to meet its quota or it >>> will be forced to buy phones from Apple that it cannot move through >>> its sales channel easily. Apple could offer deeply discounted >>> phones to AT&T who then sells them only to existing customers with >>> really old phones at a steep discount. Craig gets a brand new cheap >>> iPhone and the companies are happy because Apple was able to >>> maintain pricing power, eliminate unneeded inventory, and AT&T can >>> meet its sales quota this year. >>> Craig, I understand your interest in keeping your provider. I live >>> in a really big city and the major companies all provide service here. >>> downstate, Sprint and T-Mobile service is spotty and some areas are >>> only served by Verizon or AT&T. You may be in a similar situation. >>> Kelly >>> <div id="DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2"><br /> <table >>> style="border-top: 1px solid #D3D4DE;"> >>> <tr> >>> <td style="width: 55px; padding-top: 13px;"><a >>> href="https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail&utm_term=icon"; >>> target="_blank"><img >>> src="https://ipmcdn.avast.com/images/icons/icon-envelope-tick-round-orange-animated-no-repeat-v1.gif"; >>> alt="" width="46" height="29" style="width: 46px; height: 29px;" >>> /></a></td> >>> <td style="width: 470px; padding-top: 12px; color: >>> #41424e; >>> font-size: 13px; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; >>> line-height: 18px;">Virus-free. <a >>> href="https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail&utm_term=link"; >>> target="_blank" style="color: >>> #4453ea;">www.avast.com<http://www.avast.com></a> >>> </td> >>> </tr> >>> </table><a href="#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2" width="1" >>> height="1"></a></div> >>> On 9/8/18, Craig Werner <coffeeb...@gmail.com<mailto:coffeeb...@gmail.com>> >>> wrote: >>>> Hello, Sieghard, Carolyn, and everyone. >>>> Sieghard, when I first spoke to my provider's sales rep about the >>>> $100 price tag of the SE, I had the same concerns as you. I asked >>>> him in three different ways about whether there were hidden or >>>> undiscussed costs associated with the purchase. For instance, at >>>> one point, I phrased the question in words very similar to these: >>>> "Can you assure me that the phone is paid in full if I give you >>>> $100 and that no change to my monthly bill will occur as a result of this >>>> purchase?" >>>> He assured me this was true. When I read your understandably >>>> skeptical message, I phoned the manager of my provider's store and >>>> asked him if I could mention the name of the provider on this user >>>> group. I wanted to represent the provider accurately, I said, >>>> having been a customer for eighteen years. He said yes, and added >>>> that the provider, AT&T, is offering a limited time promotional >>>> offer for GO Phone users in the northeastern U.S. of $100 for an iPhone Se. >>>> Craig >>>> On 9/8/18, Carolyn Arnold >>>> <4carol...@windstream.net<mailto:4carol...@windstream.net>> wrote: >>>>> Sieghard, I am having to stay with Consumer Cellular at least six >>>>> months to pay for my SE. I probably have no intention of leaving >>>>> them, but that validates what you say. I have no idea what kind of >>>>> penalty I would incur if I left them before payments are >>>>> completed, which they will be on October 21. >>>>> Best regards, >>>>> Carolyn >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >>>>> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>] >>>>> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel >>>>> Sent: Saturday, September 8, 2018 9:45 AM >>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >>>>> Subject: RE: Seeking Advice on Upgrading from iPhone 5 to iPhone >>>>> SE >>>>> Hi Craig, >>>>> I am not sure I totally understand how your provider works. You >>>>> say they would sell you an iPhone SE for $100 and that is it? You >>>>> could discontinue service with them a week later with no penelty? >>>>> You say there is no contract, but I somehow doubt they give you a >>>>> $350 phone for $100 without charging you somewhere to recover the >>>>> additional cost. >>>>> How >>>>> much do you pay per month? >>>>> You don't of course have to answer, but I have found in 25 years >>>>> of owining cell phones that if you get a phone at a reduced price >>>>> the provider will charge you somewhere for that phone in addition >>>>> to whatever reduced price you pay. >>>>> I am always amazed how people here get into these 2-year contracts >>>>> where they get a phone for less tha it's cost were they to buy it >>>>> outright and they think it's an OK deal. Then the 2 years pass and >>>>> the contract ends which means the phone is paid off yet the >>>>> provider does not now suddenly drop the price of their plan by $20 >>>>> or whatever amount would be justified. >>>>> Also, in the uS more of these annual upgrade plans are offered >>>>> than here in Canada I think and again people happily pay for them >>>>> and think they are getting a great deal since all they pay is >>>>> their monthly plan and yet they get to upgrade every year. Most >>>>> apparently don't realize that again with these plans the carriers >>>>> charge to cover the costs and the plan of course is a lot more >>>>> expensive than a plan they could get were they to buy a phone >>>>> outright and look for a low-cost plan which doesn't include extra >>>>> charges to pay off a phone or, as in these annual upgrade plans, >>>>> to essentially lease the phone. >>>>> Regards, >>>>> Sieghard >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >>>>> <viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On >>>>> Behalf Of Craig Werner >>>>> Sent: Saturday, September 8, 2018 6:01 AM >>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >>>>> Subject: Re: Seeking Advice on Upgrading from iPhone 5 to iPhone >>>>> SE >>>>> Thanks very much to the many members who posted replies to my question. >>>>> I >>>>> never thought my post would garner such a plentiful response. >>>>> Since I have for a long time been out of contract with my cell >>>>> phone provider of eighteen years, and since I wish to remain with >>>>> them for the time being, at least, I don't want to consider >>>>> contractual phone buying with anyone. The price of $100 is >>>>> alluring since it comes with no strings attached; that is, the >>>>> phone would be entirely paid for, and my monthly bill would be >>>>> unaffected. I am very partial to the small phone chassis, and >>>>> since I fully understand but am immune to the blandishments of >>>>> phone technology features that I do not need, the offer is indeed >>>>> compelling. >>>>> Of >>>>> course, if I buy the phone and then the price drops after Sept. >>>>> 12, or if Apple should come out with an advanced four-inch phone >>>>> (which I doubt), I will kick my self. >>>>> However, I have done self-kicking before, and the pain wears off >>>>> pretty quickly. <grin> >>>>> The bottom line: I'm most grateful to everyone for their opinions, >>>>> and I'll be curious to see what happens on Sept. 12. >>>>> Craig >>>>> On 9/5/18, Cristobal Muñoz >>>>> <cristobalm...@gmail.com<mailto:cristobalm...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>>>> I like my SE, but right now is probably the worst time of the >>>>>> year to either buy an older phone or commit to any sort of >>>>>> contract payment structure for one. By next week, you'll probably >>>>>> be able to score a better deal for the phone you want. Be it a >>>>>> newer one or older one since everyone and their momma who's >>>>>> interested in upgrading will be itching to get rid of their older >>>>>> devices or businesses trying to clear out old stock. >>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >>>>>> <viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On >>>>>> Behalf Of Mike Arrigo >>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 5, 2018 2:05 PM >>>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >>>>>> Subject: Re: Seeking Advice on Upgrading from iPhone 5 to iPhone >>>>>> SE >>>>>> I have both an SE and an iphone 8, there are times when I prefer >>>>>> to carry a smaller phone, there's really not much of a speed >>>>>> difference, it's definitely faster than the iphone 5 you are >>>>>> upgrading from, you will notice a big improvement, if you like >>>>>> that phone size, go for it, it's a great phone. >>>>>> Original message: >>>>>>> I can tell you that I really, I mean really like my SE. I have >>>>>>> had a 4S and all kind of feature phones, but finally, I have >>>>>>> something I enjoy using. >>>>>>> Best regards, >>>>>>> Carolyn >>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >>>>>>> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>] >>>>>>> On Behalf Of Craig Werner >>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 5, 2018 5:13 AM >>>>>>> To: viphone <viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> >>>>>>> Subject: Seeking Advice on Upgrading from iPhone 5 to iPhone SE >>>>>>> Hello, everyone. >>>>>>> I am considering replacing my iPhone with an iPhone SE since my >>>>>>> carrier is offering the latter for $100. I don't want a phone >>>>>>> with lots of bells and whistles, but I would like one that runs >>>>>>> iOS 11X, which the iPhone does not allow. Are there compelling >>>>>>> reasons why I should not upgrade to the SE? 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