Although I agree with some of your statements and I am a daily user
of the Windows PC, there are things that I can do with the IPhone
which I can not do as easily on the computer.
The first and for me the thing which has really given me an
independence that I never had before are the Lyft and Uber apps. I
now go out to lunch or shopping and to medical appointments, etc.
totally on my own and can do these on the spur of the moment. No
more having to ask friends or family or to make arrangements a day
or two in advance with a para transit service.
2. Being able to set up a calendar event while I am out and not
near a computer.
3. Be My Eyes has helped with many things I would have had to get
with a sighted person at their convenience. And that includes
problems with the computer when we can't read what is on the screen.
4. KNFB and now the scanner app are so quick and easy when you are
not sitting at your computer desk or not even in your house.
5. The seeing AI lets me sort through my mail so quickly and with
no assistance and the money reader keeps me from having to worry
about what bills I have when I go out.
There are indeed many things I will always prefer to do on the
computer but I do love the portability of the IPhone and being able
to have both it and my PC.
Marie
-----Original Message----- From: Gordan Radić
Sent: Saturday, May 25, 2019 3:42 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Theme Question: In What Ways Have Apple Products, or
Their Related Third-Party Apps, Increased Your Level of Personal
Independence?
Hi to all!
I hope i won't be a party breaker but I read some emails on the
subjectt
and I can't agree with most mentioned.
Just to refresh your memory, before iPhone got Voice Over there was a
tiny little thing called Symbian, it was used on the Nokia smartphones
and there were two screen readers called Talks and Mobile Speak.
So, basic things such as calling, keeping up with the contacts,
messaging, mailing, calendar, alarms, reading caller ID and even web
browsing was available to the blind community times before first iOS
with voice over.
There wee also music and book players on those old Nokia phones. There
were also social media apps and some other things but they weren't
accessible with screen readers but, it's not Nokia or Symbian fault,
it's the developers thing. We hame the same problems on iOS
acasionally.
Things we couldn't do on the phone we could do on our PCs. I don't
know
when exactly Mac got usable Voice Over support but Jaws, Window Eyes,
Hal and NVDA are on Windows based PCs for ages. Almost everything
mentioned in previous mails was possible for us allthe time and if you
ask me, even more than on the iProducts. With all dued respect, I
still
regularly use my Windows PC for tones of tasks I can do on my phone.
So, I can't say that iOS and iDevices in general are not great, they
really are but we can't say we didn't live before them. Apple took
us to
the next level with mobility because we don't need to carry our
laptops
or whatever with us and we can do things on our iPhones on the go
but we
were able to do things before iOS with Voice over.
S poštovanjem
Gordan Radić
25.05.2019 u 19:49, Paul and Paula Jordan je napisao/la:
I was the one who swore I didn't want an IPhone no matter what.
That was when the 4S had just come out. I have had a 7 for the
last 2-1/2 years so that in itself says something. Hard to narrow
down to 5 things even with some honorable mentions, but I'll give
it a try. In no particular order:
1. the ability to do some things that would otherwise require
sighted help: BE MY EYES, and VOICE DREAM SCANNER to name just two.
2. The ability to send text messages to keep in touch with others
when I'm not sure they are able to take a phone call, or when I
just want to leave a brief message.
3. Ability to schedule appointments on a calendar immediately.
4. Keeping track of where I am either walking or riding a bus or
paratransit: BLIND SQUARE OR NEARBY EXPLORER.
5. Playing games on my phone just for fun.
Honorable mentions: 1. Shopping with the SHIPT app and perusing
websites like Chewy at my leisure.
2. Watching TV using the spectrum app even when I don't have a TV
right where I am whether outside or in a different room from the set.
3. Quickly finding business phone numbers or addresses.
4. Using UBER instead of a taxi since they are quicker, I can
contact the driver directly whether than a dispatcher, and they
are often cheaper.
God bless!
I'm sure there are more, but that's a good start. Paula and Garçon
-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
On Behalf Of M. Taylor
Sent: Friday, May 24, 2019 1:49 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Theme Question: In What Ways Have Apple Products, or
Their Related Third-Party Apps, Increased Your Level of Personal
Independence?
Hello Everyone,
What are the 5 most significant ways that iOS, Watch OS, Mac OS,
TV OS and/or any of their third-party apps increased your level of
personal independence.
As for me:.
1.
The ability to manage and pay my bills via all of the financial
apps such as Capital One, Bank of America, Apple Pay, etc.
2.
The ability to navigate with infinitely more confidence with apps
like Seeing Eye GPS Xt, Apple Maps, Uber, Nearby Explorer, etc.
3.
The ability to read printed documents and acquire product
information, on the fly, with apps such as K.N.F.B. Reader, Money
Reader, the native iOS camera app, Seeing A.I., etc.
4.
The ability to quickly and easily access social media and news
with apps such as Twitter, the native Apple News app, NFB
Newsline, Lire Full Text RSS news reader, Good Reads, Yelp, You
Tube, etc.
5.
The ability to quickly and easily access books with apps such as
BARD Mobile, Kindle, Apple Books, and of course, my beloved Over
Drive.
Honorable Memtions:
1.
TV Guide Mobile.
2.
CA Lottery app.
3.
The Parcel Track package tracking app.
4.
Digit Eyes Bar Code reader.
5.
The My Chart medical App.
I look forward to all of your replies,
Mark
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