My journey started when I was in third grade when one of the staff members gave 
me an iPad. Now it’s old since it’s stuck on iOS 9. 
After that, around 2014 I got my own personal iPad Mini 2 which had to be 
replaced due to a FaceTime defect in 2015. Then I think in 2017 my iPad got 
stuck in a boot loop, I thought it was dead. I got an iPod touch 6th gen and 
managed to revive my iPad through find my iPhone. That same year at Christmas I 
got my beloved iPhone X. 
My favorite and helpful apps are: Bard Mobile, VDR, and Seeing AI

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> On May 26, 2019, at 2:43 PM, Gordan Radić <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> 
> Well, guess we don't understand each other quite well. English is not my 
> native language so it is possible i miss some points but....
> 
> As far as I know, Uber and Lift are general apps for everyone, not just for 
> the blind and using those services is meant for everyone. We don't have Lift 
> in this area but we have Uber and Bolt and, their drivers don't have the 
> obligation to help people with disabilitties unles they don't want to. The 
> same goes for the old fashioned cab services. It is the good will of the 
> driver will he or she help you to the door or whatever. I had great 
> experiences with old cabs just as I had bad experiences with Uber. And the 
> point is, it doesn't have anything to do with using iPhone, it's just matter 
> of humanity.
> 
> And to conclude, thetruth is Apple enabled me to use iOS with Voice Over 
> which again enabled me to use native and 3rd party apps but I managed to do 
> the things I do on iPhone today long before iPhone and I can't call it 
> lifechanger. And this whole topic is sounding like "in the begginning there 
> was dark... And Apple says let there be Voice Over" which is, if not good 
> than atleast not correct.
> 
> 
> S poštovanjem
> 
> Gordan Radić
> 
> 26.05.2019 u 17:49, Marie N. je napisao/la:
>> You missed some of my points. The good thing about apps like Be my Eyes is 
>> that you can use them when you want and not when a sighted person has the 
>> time to help. I live alone and am totally blind so this is important to me.
>> And yes I can call a taxi whenever I wish but they are not going to assist 
>> you to the door of the restaurant or hair salon, etc. Here where I live many 
>> of the drivers are not exactly friendly the cars are not clean and so on. 
>> The Uber and Lyft cars I have been in are clean and comfortable, and the 
>> drivers are great, very helpful and friendly so I am much more inclined to 
>> get out and about.They are also cheaper.
>> I am not for one minute refuting the wonderful things that the computer and 
>> a good screen reader have brought to my life, but the IPhone has brought 
>> additional benefits.
>> 
>> -----Original Message----- From: Gordan Radić
>> Sent: Sunday, May 26, 2019 3:53 AM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: Re: Theme Question: In What Ways Have Apple Products, or Their 
>> Related Third-Party Apps, Increased Your Level of Personal Independence?
>> 
>> Hi to you and everyone!
>> 
>> I read Marks post as I read some others and I guess I didn't put my
>> thouhts as good as I could.
>> 
>> I never meant to say that iPhone or other apple products are not helping
>> us, I just wanted to say we could do some thins long before they came in
>> the scene. Guess some of us just forgot it and some of us just started
>> with that and that's OK.
>> 
>> I just couldn't pass by some comments like "I could finally browse the
>> web" or, like you said, "Apps like Lift and Uber change my life". Well,
>> as I remember, cab services were just accessible to us before iPhones.
>> You just needed to pick up your landphone, call the number and request a
>> car. We could do that in 50s and 60s just as easy we can do that now
>> using the cab service apps.
>> 
>> Apps like Be my Eyes are no different than asking for help from your
>> family, relatives or friends. It's just you can ask it remotely from
>> other people aswell but asking for help is still asking for help. And to
>> be completely honest, apps like Be my Eyes aren't Apples idea, they're
>> result of some blind people who found the way to use the modern
>> technology for our needs.
>> 
>> Since Mark didn't intent to put my stand for the debate I'll stop right
>> here but I'd really like if this community would atleast give some
>> thought what was really a life changers and what was just the
>> advancement on existing solutions.
>> 
>> 
>> S poštovanjem
>> 
>> Gordan Radić
>> 
>> 26.05.2019 u 6:08, Marie N. je napisao/la:
>>> Although I agree with some of your statements and I am a daily user of the 
>>> Windows PC, there are things that I can do with the IPhone which I can not 
>>> do as easily on the computer.
>>> The first and for me the thing which has really given me an independence 
>>> that I never had before are the Lyft and Uber apps. I now go out to lunch 
>>> or shopping and to medical appointments, etc. totally on my own and can do 
>>> these on the spur of the moment. No more having to ask friends or family or 
>>> to make arrangements a day or two in advance with a para transit service.
>>> 2. Being able to set up a calendar event while I am out and not near a 
>>> computer.
>>> 3. Be My Eyes has helped with many things I would have had to get with a 
>>> sighted person at their convenience. And that includes problems with the 
>>> computer when we can't read what is on the screen.
>>> 4. KNFB and now the scanner app are so quick and easy when you are not 
>>> sitting at your computer desk or not even in your house.
>>> 5. The seeing AI lets me sort through my mail so quickly and with no 
>>> assistance and the money reader keeps me from having to worry about what 
>>> bills I have when I go out.
>>> There are indeed many things I will always prefer to do on the computer but 
>>> I do love the portability of the IPhone and being able to have both it and 
>>> my PC.
>>> Marie
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message----- From: Gordan Radić
>>> Sent: Saturday, May 25, 2019 3:42 PM
>>> To: [email protected]
>>> Subject: Re: Theme Question: In What Ways Have Apple Products, or Their 
>>> Related Third-Party Apps, Increased Your Level of Personal Independence?
>>> 
>>> Hi to all!
>>> 
>>> I hope i won't be a party breaker but I read some emails on the subjectt
>>> and I can't agree with most mentioned.
>>> 
>>> Just to refresh your memory, before iPhone got Voice Over there was a
>>> tiny little thing called Symbian, it was used on the Nokia smartphones
>>> and there were two screen readers called Talks and Mobile Speak.
>>> 
>>> So, basic things such as calling, keeping up with the contacts,
>>> messaging, mailing, calendar, alarms, reading caller ID and even web
>>> browsing was available to the blind community times before first iOS
>>> with voice over.
>>> 
>>> There wee also music and book players on those old Nokia phones. There
>>> were also social media apps and some other things but they weren't
>>> accessible with screen readers but, it's not Nokia or Symbian fault,
>>> it's the developers thing. We hame the same problems on iOS acasionally.
>>> 
>>> Things we couldn't do on the phone we could do on our PCs. I don't know
>>> when exactly Mac got usable Voice Over support but Jaws, Window Eyes,
>>> Hal and NVDA are on Windows based PCs for ages. Almost everything
>>> mentioned in previous mails was possible for us allthe time and if you
>>> ask me, even more than on the iProducts. With all dued respect, I still
>>> regularly use my Windows PC for tones of tasks I can do on my phone.
>>> 
>>> So, I can't say that iOS and iDevices in general are not great, they
>>> really are but we can't say we didn't live before them. Apple took us to
>>> the next level with mobility because we don't need to carry our laptops
>>> or whatever with us and we can do things on our iPhones on the go but we
>>> were able to do things before iOS with Voice over.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> S poštovanjem
>>> 
>>> Gordan Radić
>>> 
>>> 25.05.2019 u 19:49, Paul and Paula Jordan je napisao/la:
>>>> I was the one who swore I didn't want an IPhone no matter what. That was 
>>>> when the 4S had just come out. I have had a 7 for the last 2-1/2 years so 
>>>> that in itself says something. Hard to narrow down to 5 things even with 
>>>> some honorable mentions, but I'll give it a try. In no particular order:
>>>> 
>>>> 1.  the ability to do some things that would otherwise require sighted 
>>>> help:  BE MY EYES,  and VOICE DREAM SCANNER to name just two.
>>>> 2.  The ability to send text messages to keep in touch with others when 
>>>> I'm not sure they are able to take a phone call, or when I just want to 
>>>> leave a brief message.
>>>> 3.  Ability to schedule appointments on a calendar immediately.
>>>> 4.  Keeping track of where I am either walking or riding a bus or 
>>>> paratransit:  BLIND SQUARE OR NEARBY EXPLORER.
>>>> 5. Playing games on my phone just for fun.
>>>> 
>>>> Honorable mentions:  1. Shopping with the SHIPT app and perusing websites 
>>>> like Chewy at my leisure.
>>>> 2.  Watching TV using the spectrum app even when I don't have a TV right 
>>>> where I am whether outside or in a different room from the set.
>>>> 3.  Quickly finding business phone numbers or addresses.
>>>> 4.  Using UBER instead of a taxi since they are quicker, I can contact the 
>>>> driver directly whether than a dispatcher,  and they are often cheaper.
>>>> God bless!
>>>> 
>>>> I'm sure there are more, but that's a good start. Paula and Garçon
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf 
>>>> Of M. Taylor
>>>> Sent: Friday, May 24, 2019 1:49 PM
>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>> Subject: Theme Question: In What Ways Have Apple Products, or Their 
>>>> Related Third-Party Apps, Increased Your Level of Personal Independence?
>>>> 
>>>> Hello Everyone,
>>>> 
>>>> What are the 5 most significant ways that iOS, Watch OS, Mac OS, TV OS 
>>>> and/or any of their third-party apps increased your level of personal 
>>>> independence.
>>>> 
>>>> As for me:.
>>>> 
>>>> 1.
>>>> The ability to manage and pay my bills via all of the financial apps such 
>>>> as Capital One, Bank of America, Apple Pay, etc.
>>>> 
>>>> 2.
>>>> The ability to navigate with infinitely more confidence with apps like 
>>>> Seeing Eye GPS Xt, Apple Maps, Uber, Nearby Explorer, etc.
>>>> 
>>>> 3.
>>>> The ability to read printed documents and acquire product information, on 
>>>> the fly, with apps such as K.N.F.B. Reader, Money Reader, the native iOS 
>>>> camera app, Seeing A.I., etc.
>>>> 
>>>> 4.
>>>> The ability to quickly and easily access social media and news with apps 
>>>> such as Twitter, the native Apple News app, NFB Newsline, Lire Full Text 
>>>> RSS news reader, Good Reads, Yelp, You Tube, etc.
>>>> 
>>>> 5.
>>>> The ability to quickly and easily access books with apps such as BARD 
>>>> Mobile, Kindle, Apple Books, and of course, my beloved Over Drive.
>>>> 
>>>> Honorable Memtions:
>>>> 1.
>>>> TV Guide Mobile.
>>>> 
>>>> 2.
>>>> CA Lottery app.
>>>> 
>>>> 3.
>>>> The Parcel Track package tracking app.
>>>> 
>>>> 4.
>>>> Digit Eyes Bar Code reader.
>>>> 
>>>> 5.
>>>> The My Chart medical App.
>>>> 
>>>> I look forward to all of your replies,
>>>> 
>>>> Mark
>>>> 
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