Hi Vicki, I would suggest setting up two-factor authentication. It's a lot more secure than previous methods, and it's not intrusive once it's set up.
Best, Anna > On Oct 15, 2019, at 1:39 PM, Vicki W. <[email protected]> wrote: > > I'm looking for a way to back up everything, including my messages, without > using 2 factor authentication on my phone. > > I was hoping that ITunes backup might do the trick since ICloud does not. > > Vicki > >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Sieghard Weitzel <mailto:[email protected]> >> To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >> Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2019 9:15 AM >> Subject: RE: ITunes Backups >> >> Is there a reason why you can’t do an encrypted iTunes backup? >> >> From: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> On Behalf Of >> Vicki W. >> Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2019 7:08 AM >> To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >> Subject: Re: ITunes Backups >> >> Mine doesn't, at least with ICloud. Every time I try I get the message that >> it cannot back up messages because I'm not using 2 factor authentication. >> >> I'm wondering if there is a way to back up or copy my messages to dropbox or >> my computer from my phone? >> >> Vicki >> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: Sieghard Weitzel <mailto:[email protected]> >>> To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >>> Sent: Monday, October 14, 2019 9:31 PM >>> Subject: RE: ITunes Backups >>> >>> Encrypted iTunes backups and I believe iCloud backups also do include text >>> messages. >>> >>> >>> From: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> On Behalf Of >>> Anna Dresner >>> Sent: Monday, October 14, 2019 3:32 PM >>> To: VIPhone Mailing List <[email protected] >>> <mailto:[email protected]>> >>> Subject: Re: ITunes Backups >>> >>> Hi Vicki, >>> >>> My understanding is that an encrypted iTunes backup includes exactly the >>> same information as an iCloud backup, so I don't think your messages would >>> be backed up. I would suggest checking with Apple to be sure, though. >>> >>> Best, >>> Anna >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> On Oct 14, 2019, at 5:13 PM, Vicki W. <[email protected] >>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Another question I have is concerning backing up my messages. With the way >>>> I have my security set up, I can't back up my messages with ICloud, but >>>> it's my understanding that I can if I use ITunes. Is that true? >>>> >>>> Vicki >>>> >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>> From: Anna Dresner <mailto:[email protected]> >>>>> To: VIPhone Mailing List <mailto:[email protected]> >>>>> Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2019 4:54 PM >>>>> Subject: Re: ITunes Backups >>>>> >>>>> Hi Vicki, >>>>> >>>>> You shouldn't have trouble restoring a backup from an older operating >>>>> system to a newer one. The problem would be if your new device were >>>>> running an older operating system. >>>>> >>>>> I would set up iCloud backups and restore from that. It's simpler, and >>>>> either way, the apps are downloaded from Apple's servers. Just go to >>>>> Settings, choose the Apple ID setting near the top that has your name, >>>>> and make sure iCloud Backup is on. Then a backup will happen >>>>> automatically every 24 hours or so, when your device is on and connected >>>>> to wi-Fi and power. There's also a Back Up Now button you can use to back >>>>> up the device at any time. >>>>> >>>>> Then when you get your new device, choose to restore from an iCloud >>>>> backup. It will give you the choice of using your most recent backup. >>>>> >>>>> Best, >>>>> Anna >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> On Oct 12, 2019, at 5:48 PM, Vicki W. <[email protected] >>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> I have a somewhat detailed question on backing up and restoring a mini >>>>>> IPAD II to a Mini IPad 5 and or an older IPhone which cannot be updated >>>>>> beyond IOS 12 to a newer phone with IOS 13. >>>>>> >>>>>> First of all, what version of ITunes is best to use? I have both Windows >>>>>> 7 and 10 with JAWS 2019 or 2020 beta. >>>>>> >>>>>> Next, what are the steps for making a backup copy of my mini IPad II or >>>>>> older phone? >>>>>> >>>>>> Third, how can I transfer this to the new Mini IPad 5 or newer phone? >>>>>> >>>>>> The problem, I believe, is going to show up in the transfer. I will be >>>>>> trying to put a different IOS version from one to the other. I'm not >>>>>> certain which version will be on the new Mini IPad 5 or newer phone, but >>>>>> I currently have the latest update of 12.4 on the Mini Ipad II and my >>>>>> older phone. >>>>>> >>>>>> I know that people are having problems transferring the IOS versions >>>>>> with older IPhones that cannot be updated to IOS 13 to newer phones with >>>>>> IOS 13. How is this problem worked around when you can't update the >>>>>> older IPad or phone, but yet cannot transfer unless you have a matching >>>>>> version or the phone you are transferring from has a later IOS version. >>>>>> >>>>>> Hope this all makes sense. >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks. >>>>>> >>>>>> Vicki >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone >>>>>> list. >>>>>> >>>>>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or >>>>>> if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the >>>>>> owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >>>>>> >>>>>> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: >>>>>> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>. 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