I'm looking for a way to back up everything, including my messages, without 
using 2 factor authentication on my phone.

I was hoping that ITunes backup might do the trick since ICloud does not.

Vicki

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Sieghard Weitzel 
  To: [email protected] 
  Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2019 9:15 AM
  Subject: RE: ITunes Backups


  Is there a reason why you can’t do an encrypted iTunes backup?

   

  From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Vicki 
W.
  Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2019 7:08 AM
  To: [email protected]
  Subject: Re: ITunes Backups

   

  Mine doesn't, at least with ICloud. Every time I try I get the message that 
it cannot back up messages because I'm not using 2 factor authentication.

   

  I'm wondering if there is a way to back up or copy my messages to dropbox or 
my computer from my phone?

   

  Vicki

   

    ----- Original Message ----- 

    From: Sieghard Weitzel 

    To: [email protected] 

    Sent: Monday, October 14, 2019 9:31 PM

    Subject: RE: ITunes Backups

     

    Encrypted iTunes backups and I believe iCloud backups also do include text 
messages.

     

     

    From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Anna 
Dresner
    Sent: Monday, October 14, 2019 3:32 PM
    To: VIPhone Mailing List <[email protected]>
    Subject: Re: ITunes Backups

     

    Hi Vicki,

     

    My understanding is that an encrypted iTunes backup includes exactly the 
same information as an iCloud backup, so I don't think your messages would be 
backed up. I would suggest checking with Apple to be sure, though.

     

    Best,

    Anna

     

     

     

     

      On Oct 14, 2019, at 5:13 PM, Vicki W. <[email protected]> wrote:

       

      Another question I have is concerning backing up my messages. With the 
way I have my security set up, I can't back up my messages with ICloud, but 
it's my understanding that I can if I use ITunes. Is that true?

       

      Vicki

       

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        From: Anna Dresner

        To: VIPhone Mailing List

        Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2019 4:54 PM

        Subject: Re: ITunes Backups

         

        Hi Vicki,

         

        You shouldn't have trouble restoring a backup from an older operating 
system to a newer one. The problem would be if your new device were running an 
older operating system.

         

        I would set up iCloud backups and restore from that. It's simpler, and 
either way, the apps are downloaded from Apple's servers. Just go to Settings, 
choose the Apple ID setting near the top that has your name, and make sure 
iCloud Backup is on. Then a backup will happen automatically every 24 hours or 
so, when your device is on and connected to wi-Fi and power. There's also a 
Back Up Now button you can use to back up the device at any time.

         

        Then when you get your new device, choose to restore from an iCloud 
backup. It will give you the choice of using your most recent backup.

         

        Best,

        Anna

         

         

         

         

          On Oct 12, 2019, at 5:48 PM, Vicki W. <[email protected]> wrote:

           

          I have a somewhat detailed question on backing up and restoring a 
mini IPAD II to a Mini IPad 5 and or an older IPhone which cannot be updated 
beyond IOS 12 to a newer phone with IOS 13.

           

          First of all, what version of ITunes is best to use? I have both 
Windows 7 and 10 with JAWS 2019 or 2020 beta.

           

          Next, what are the steps for making a backup copy of my mini IPad II 
or older phone?

           

          Third, how can I transfer this to the new Mini IPad 5 or newer phone?

           

          The problem, I believe, is going to show up in the transfer. I will 
be trying to put a different IOS version from one to the other. I'm not certain 
which version will be on the new Mini IPad 5 or newer phone, but I currently 
have the latest update of 12.4 on the Mini Ipad II and my older phone. 

           

          I know that people are having problems transferring the IOS versions 
with older IPhones that cannot be updated to IOS 13 to newer phones with IOS 
13. How is this problem worked around when you can't update the older IPad or 
phone, but yet cannot transfer unless you have a matching version or the phone 
you are transferring from has a later IOS version.

           

          Hope this all makes sense.

           

          Thanks.

           

          Vicki

           

           

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