I like the scrollbar. I think it helps when you’re navigating long lists, 
rather than having to repeatedly do the three finger flick, which sometimes 
doesn’t actually move for whatever reason. That’s probably because it’s trying 
to catch up with itself. I like the scroll bar, and I hope they don’t get rid 
of it. I could see making it a toggle for those who really don’t want it. But I 
think it has a lot of benefit.


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> On Oct 18, 2019, at 7:46 AM, Ed Worrell <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Hello Sieghard and. All,
> 
> I honestly feel that this should have been implemented as a toggle for VO 
> users. It is a nuisance and it is useless in my eyes. I should have the 
> ability to have VO ignore it.
> 
> The three finger drag up or down does the same thing and you have more 
> control with the three finger drag than the vertical slider on the right side 
> of the screen. Before you jump down my throat I do understand it and I can 
> see how it could be useful to those with dexterity issues. But it should be 
> an option not a requirement to use it. Let the user control how they want to 
> scroll down the page. It adds a few commands/gestures to the messages app and 
> many other apps it simply gets in the way trying to find things on the right 
> side of the screen. Again give the user the option to hide it or not.
> 
> Ed W.
> 
> 
>> On Oct 16, 2019, at 8:28 AM, Sieghard Weitzel <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> I also think this is a well done feature and I think those who hate it maybe 
>> have not yet understood its use and learned how to take advantage of it.
>> What Robert refers to as having always been part of the rotor is vertical 
>> navigation which is very different.
>> 
>> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of 
>> Feliciano Godoy
>> Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2019 7:13 AM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: Re: Vertical Scroll Bar.
>> 
>> Robert, 
>> The vertical scrollbar that is being referred to is the one implemented on 
>> iOS 13. The vertical scrollbar is located on the right hand side edge of the 
>> screen.
>> 
>> Feliciano 
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>> On Oct 16, 2019, at 3:04 AM, Robert Wright <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>>  
>> I am confused. The verticle scroll bar has always been a apart of the rotor 
>> if you happened to add it. Are you saying that in the beta that its been 
>> moved and made a main part of the screen?
>> 
>> ******If we can't look at ourselves, and ask, why?  then where does the 
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>> 
>> From: Anna Dresner
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2019 5:35 PM
>> To: VIPhone Mailing List
>> Subject: Re: Vertical Scroll Bar.
>> 
>> Hi Carolyn,
>> 
>> YOu can use it to navigate a page. Flick up or down to move through the 
>> page, or double-tap and hold, and then slide your finger. It also tells you 
>> where you are on the page.
>> 
>> Best,
>> Anna
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Oct 15, 2019, at 5:18 PM, Carolyn Arnold <[email protected]> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Why in the world did they put that thing on the phone? Do
>>> any of you Beta people have any idea? 
>>> 
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