Sieghard, My biggest issue with the scroll bar is that it gets in the way. I use a lot of just tapping on the screen where items should be.
Ie. Finding the compose button in Twitterrific, tap in the top right corner of the screen. This is made much more difficult as the scroll bar on the right gets in the way all of the time. I have talked with the developer of Twitterrific and there is no way to hide the scroll bar or make it smaller. The design doesn’t respect application interfaces. It’s simply there. Ed > On Oct 18, 2019, at 8:49 AM, Sieghard Weitzel <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hi Ed, > > I sort of get what you are saying, but if Apple wanted to implement > everything a few people want as an option nobody could find anything in > Settings any more. > I could just as easily say the ability to swipe up and down with 3 fingers > should be an option. The vertical scrollbar is not that hard to ignore if you > don't want to use it and based on the responses to this thread it seems a lot > more people like it than not. You can of course write to Apple Accessibility > and request that this is made optional and if enough others do as well you > may get your wish. > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Ed > Worrell > Sent: Friday, October 18, 2019 7:46 AM > To: 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: Vertical Scroll Bar. > > Hello Sieghard and. All, > > I honestly feel that this should have been implemented as a toggle for VO > users. It is a nuisance and it is useless in my eyes. I should have the > ability to have VO ignore it. > > The three finger drag up or down does the same thing and you have more > control with the three finger drag than the vertical slider on the right side > of the screen. Before you jump down my throat I do understand it and I can > see how it could be useful to those with dexterity issues. But it should be > an option not a requirement to use it. Let the user control how they want to > scroll down the page. It adds a few commands/gestures to the messages app and > many other apps it simply gets in the way trying to find things on the right > side of the screen. Again give the user the option to hide it or not. > > Ed W. > > >> On Oct 16, 2019, at 8:28 AM, Sieghard Weitzel <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> I also think this is a well done feature and I think those who hate it maybe >> have not yet understood its use and learned how to take advantage of it. >> What Robert refers to as having always been part of the rotor is vertical >> navigation which is very different. >> >> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of >> Feliciano Godoy >> Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2019 7:13 AM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: Vertical Scroll Bar. >> >> Robert, >> The vertical scrollbar that is being referred to is the one implemented on >> iOS 13. 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