Sieghard, Yep, I have done so. I also have told the Deve team that it overlaps with controls in many apps and I gave them a list of apps.
Thanks for the suggestion though. Ed > On Oct 18, 2019, at 9:06 AM, Sieghard Weitzel <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hi Ed, > > Maybe that is so, I am not a developer so I have no idea if it would be that > easy, but as I said, you should suggest it to Apple Accessibility because if > you don't they will never know some people don't like it. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Ed > Worrell > Sent: Friday, October 18, 2019 7:53 AM > To: 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: Vertical Scroll Bar. > > Hey Sieghard, > > The three finger drag is basically and option now. You have the ability to > change it in the custom commands section of VO settings. The development team > could simply add a toggle switch to the verbosity section of VO to announce > or not announce the vertical scroll bar. > > Problem solved. > > Ed > > >> On Oct 18, 2019, at 8:49 AM, Sieghard Weitzel <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Hi Ed, >> >> I sort of get what you are saying, but if Apple wanted to implement >> everything a few people want as an option nobody could find anything in >> Settings any more. >> I could just as easily say the ability to swipe up and down with 3 fingers >> should be an option. The vertical scrollbar is not that hard to ignore if >> you don't want to use it and based on the responses to this thread it seems >> a lot more people like it than not. You can of course write to Apple >> Accessibility and request that this is made optional and if enough others do >> as well you may get your wish. >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of >> Ed Worrell >> Sent: Friday, October 18, 2019 7:46 AM >> To: 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone <[email protected]> >> Subject: Re: Vertical Scroll Bar. >> >> Hello Sieghard and. All, >> >> I honestly feel that this should have been implemented as a toggle for VO >> users. It is a nuisance and it is useless in my eyes. I should have the >> ability to have VO ignore it. >> >> The three finger drag up or down does the same thing and you have more >> control with the three finger drag than the vertical slider on the right >> side of the screen. Before you jump down my throat I do understand it and I >> can see how it could be useful to those with dexterity issues. But it should >> be an option not a requirement to use it. Let the user control how they want >> to scroll down the page. It adds a few commands/gestures to the messages app >> and many other apps it simply gets in the way trying to find things on the >> right side of the screen. Again give the user the option to hide it or not. >> >> Ed W. >> >> >>> On Oct 16, 2019, at 8:28 AM, Sieghard Weitzel <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> I also think this is a well done feature and I think those who hate it >>> maybe have not yet understood its use and learned how to take advantage of >>> it. >>> What Robert refers to as having always been part of the rotor is vertical >>> navigation which is very different. >>> >>> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf >>> Of Feliciano Godoy >>> Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2019 7:13 AM >>> To: [email protected] >>> Subject: Re: Vertical Scroll Bar. >>> >>> Robert, >>> The vertical scrollbar that is being referred to is the one implemented on >>> iOS 13. The vertical scrollbar is located on the right hand side edge of >>> the screen. >>> >>> Feliciano >>> For tech tips and updates: >>> LIKE www.facebook.com/theblindman12v >>> Follow www.twitter.com/theblindman12v Follow >>> www.instagram/TheBlindMan12v those who are crazy enough to think they >>> can change the world are the ones who do. -Steve Jobs >>> >>> >>> On Oct 16, 2019, at 3:04 AM, Robert Wright <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>> >>> I am confused. The verticle scroll bar has always been a apart of the rotor >>> if you happened to add it. Are you saying that in the beta that its been >>> moved and made a main part of the screen? >>> >>> ******If we can't look at ourselves, and ask, why? then where does the >>> learning start?*** >>> >>> From: Anna Dresner >>> Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2019 5:35 PM >>> To: VIPhone Mailing List >>> Subject: Re: Vertical Scroll Bar. >>> >>> Hi Carolyn, >>> >>> YOu can use it to navigate a page. 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