There are bugs one can work around and some one can't.
I did actually forget about the dictation issue, this actually is a 
super-annoying issue and there is no work-around except to take a Bluetooth 
keyboard and type the message, so yes, I guess that is a work-around but only 
if I am near my Bluetooth keyboard. Of course for people who only speak/use 
English this is not a problem.

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Anthony 
Vece
Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2019 10:56 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Any improvements for voice over in 13.2.3

Just reload the message

Sent from my Verizon iPhone XR!!!

> On Nov 19, 2019, at 1:32 PM, Davy Cuppens <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Anthony
> 
> Like that friend of mine that encounters the fade-in speech bug or the 
> dictation bug whereas your second dictation line behaves in another installed 
> language ... how would you wirkaround these bugs?
> If one is using the native mail app constantly there is no way to rule the 
> focus. But if mail and notifications don't matter you there is no reason not 
> to update.
> Davy
> 
> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- From: Anthony Vece
> Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2019 5:31 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: Any improvements for voice over in 13.2.3
> 
> Hi everybody;
> I have been using Apple products and it’s accompanying software for the past 
> 10 years.
> 
> 
> I’ve always worked around Boggs.
> Nothing is perfect.
> That’s a fact of life and software.
> I believe everyone will be much happier if they learnto work around the bugs.
> If you encounter a bug just report them to Apple Accessibility.
> Hope this helps
> Anthony
> 
> 
> Sent from my Verizon iPhone XR!!!
> 
>> On Nov 19, 2019, at 10:26 AM, Davy Cuppens <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> No, please stay where you are!
>> 
>> The bugs are becoming funnier and funnier.
>> Yesterday I read on facebook, several American english synthesizers can even 
>> not pronounce the word gun and speak it as gna or something like this.
>> A friend of mine which is a music producer and extremely advanced ios and 
>> mac os user with the use of protools and all that sound stuff, he has the 
>> bug since ios13.2. that his voiceover is fading-in each time when he takes 
>> his iphone after let say 30 seconds of rest.
>> So stay on ios12 like I do.
>> Davy
>> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- From: Joe Orozco
>> Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2019 2:49 AM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: Re: Any improvements for voice over in 13.2.3
>> 
>> Are we at a point where iOS 13 is recommended? I'm still hanging 
>> steady on iOS 12.
>> 
>> Joe
>> 
>>>> On 11/18/19, Richard Turner <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> A comment on Applevis.com, one person said that braille screen input 
>>> now works everywhere on the home screen.
>>> That was all that was mentioned for VoiceOver users, and since I do 
>>> not use braille screen input, I know nothing more.
>>> HTH,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Richard
>>> "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch 
>>> with it."
>>> -- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by 
>>> Jane Wagner
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Nov 18, 2019, at 5:41 PM, Cris Ali <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi folks,
>>> 
>>> Any improvements in voice over performance in iOS 13.2.3? The 
>>> description does not mention voice over at all. This has been 
>>> apple’s policy since the release of iOS 13, which is to ignore 
>>> accessibility concerns. I noticed that the email delete bug still persists.
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Cris
>>> B
>>> 
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