With iOS 13, my wife's 6s crashes voiceoVer after an AIRA call. We are going to 
look in to this with Apple accessibility. 

> On Nov 19, 2019, at 7:16 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> There are bugs one can work around and some one can't.
> I did actually forget about the dictation issue, this actually is a 
> super-annoying issue and there is no work-around except to take a Bluetooth 
> keyboard and type the message, so yes, I guess that is a work-around but only 
> if I am near my Bluetooth keyboard. Of course for people who only speak/use 
> English this is not a problem.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of 
> Anthony Vece
> Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2019 10:56 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: Any improvements for voice over in 13.2.3
> 
> Just reload the message
> 
> Sent from my Verizon iPhone XR!!!
> 
>> On Nov 19, 2019, at 1:32 PM, Davy Cuppens <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> Anthony
>> 
>> Like that friend of mine that encounters the fade-in speech bug or the 
>> dictation bug whereas your second dictation line behaves in another 
>> installed language ... how would you wirkaround these bugs?
>> If one is using the native mail app constantly there is no way to rule the 
>> focus. But if mail and notifications don't matter you there is no reason not 
>> to update.
>> Davy
>> 
>> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- From: Anthony Vece
>> Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2019 5:31 PM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: Re: Any improvements for voice over in 13.2.3
>> 
>> Hi everybody;
>> I have been using Apple products and it’s accompanying software for the past 
>> 10 years.
>> 
>> 
>> I’ve always worked around Boggs.
>> Nothing is perfect.
>> That’s a fact of life and software.
>> I believe everyone will be much happier if they learnto work around the bugs.
>> If you encounter a bug just report them to Apple Accessibility.
>> Hope this helps
>> Anthony
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my Verizon iPhone XR!!!
>> 
>>> On Nov 19, 2019, at 10:26 AM, Davy Cuppens <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> No, please stay where you are!
>>> 
>>> The bugs are becoming funnier and funnier.
>>> Yesterday I read on facebook, several American english synthesizers can 
>>> even not pronounce the word gun and speak it as gna or something like this.
>>> A friend of mine which is a music producer and extremely advanced ios and 
>>> mac os user with the use of protools and all that sound stuff, he has the 
>>> bug since ios13.2. that his voiceover is fading-in each time when he takes 
>>> his iphone after let say 30 seconds of rest.
>>> So stay on ios12 like I do.
>>> Davy
>>> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- From: Joe Orozco
>>> Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2019 2:49 AM
>>> To: [email protected]
>>> Subject: Re: Any improvements for voice over in 13.2.3
>>> 
>>> Are we at a point where iOS 13 is recommended? I'm still hanging 
>>> steady on iOS 12.
>>> 
>>> Joe
>>> 
>>>>> On 11/18/19, Richard Turner <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> A comment on Applevis.com, one person said that braille screen input 
>>>> now works everywhere on the home screen.
>>>> That was all that was mentioned for VoiceOver users, and since I do 
>>>> not use braille screen input, I know nothing more.
>>>> HTH,
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Richard
>>>> "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch 
>>>> with it."
>>>> -- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by 
>>>> Jane Wagner
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Nov 18, 2019, at 5:41 PM, Cris Ali <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi folks,
>>>> 
>>>> Any improvements in voice over performance in iOS 13.2.3? The 
>>>> description does not mention voice over at all. This has been 
>>>> apple’s policy since the release of iOS 13, which is to ignore 
>>>> accessibility concerns. I noticed that the email delete bug still persists.
>>>> 
>>>> Regards,
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Cris
>>>> B
>>>> 
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