David, The one thing you stated that caught my attention is regarding the Braille display being connected. So, this problem does not occur provided the display is not connected? If so, that is something and certainly worth reporting to APple.
On Oct 9, 2012, at 9:17 AM, David Chittenden <[email protected]> wrote: > Scott, > > I have not yet been able to figure out any patterns yet. I managed to make it > lose VO again by having my braille display connected when I did the power > home reboot. The most annoying thing is that the rotors are both set back to > factory defaults each time VO is switched off. Also, triple-click home is > deactivated, so iTunes is necessary for restarting VO on the iPhone. > > > David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA > Email: [email protected] > Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 > Sent from my iPhone > > On 10/10/2012, at 0:27, Scott Howell <[email protected]> wrote: > >> David, >> >> I have to admit that I have not used this reboot procedure more than maybe a >> couple of times, yet I have not encountered this issue. So, is there any >> particular pattern to reproducing the problem? FOr example, rebooting >> repeatedly (within a period of time) such as maybe every five minutes for 10 >> times etc.? Perhaps rebooting the phone more than once a week? Also, is >> there any particular app that has caused the condition which necessitated a >> reboot? I am curious if there is in fact some pattern or application that >> may be the cause for the loss of speech etc. when the phone is rebooted >> using this technique. >> >> On Oct 9, 2012, at 5:27 AM, David Chittenden <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> I have now lost VO one time using this technique out of seven times I have >>> used the technique on my iPhone 5. In addition to losing VO, my braille >>> display would not connect after I started VO with iTunes. Also, VO was set >>> to factory defaults. I had to do another power home reboot before the >>> braille display drivers would load properly again. This is a fascinating >>> little bug. >>> >>> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA >>> Email: [email protected] >>> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On 09/10/2012, at 22:09, Scott Howell <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> I have to agree I have not lost VO as a result of using this reset >>>> technique. >>>> >>>> On Oct 9, 2012, at 12:05 AM, Katey Glass <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I have used holding the power button and home button to reset the iPhone >>>>> and iPad many times and I havne't lost VO ever. Maybe reset is not the >>>>> proper phrase as we are not technically resetting any settings, but >>>>> rather just clearing out memory "cobwebs" on the phone or pad. >>>>> >>>>> At any rate, I have indeed held both power button and home button and >>>>> waited 10 seconds an d the device comes back talking. >>>>> >>>>> Katey >>>>> >>>>> On Oct 8, 2012, at 9:42 PM, "Kathy Blackburn" <[email protected]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I wrote to [email protected] and was told that the hard re-set, >>>>>> holding down the home and sleep/wake buttons at the same time, does >>>>>> indeed result in loss of VoiceOver and does so by design. In order to >>>>>> get VoiceOver back, you must either get sighted help or connect the >>>>>> phone to a computer and re-enable VoiceOver using iTunes. Moral of >>>>>> story: power off only by holding down sleep/wake until the slider >>>>>> appears and then double-tap. >>>>>> >>>>>> Kathy Blackburn >>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>> -- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" >>>>>> Google Group. >>>>>> To search the VIPhone public archive, visit >>>>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/. >>>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>>> [email protected]. >>>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" >>>>> Google Group. >>>>> To search the VIPhone public archive, visit >>>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/. >>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>> [email protected]. >>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" >>>> Google Group. >>>> To search the VIPhone public archive, visit >>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/. >>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> [email protected]. >>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. >>>> >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" >>> Google Group. >>> To search the VIPhone public archive, visit >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/. >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> [email protected]. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. >>> >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google >> Group. >> To search the VIPhone public archive, visit >> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected]. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. >> >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google > Group. > To search the VIPhone public archive, visit > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. 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