Yes, as soon as I confirm this is the cause.

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
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On 10/10/2012, at 5:56, Scott Howell <[email protected]> wrote:

> David,
> 
> The one thing you stated that caught my attention is regarding the Braille 
> display being connected. So, this problem does not occur provided the display 
> is not connected? If so, that is something and certainly worth reporting to 
> APple.
> 
> On Oct 9, 2012, at 9:17 AM, David Chittenden <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> Scott,
>> 
>> I have not yet been able to figure out any patterns yet. I managed to make 
>> it lose VO again by having my braille display connected when I did the power 
>> home reboot. The most annoying thing is that the rotors are both set back to 
>> factory defaults each time VO is switched off. Also, triple-click home is 
>> deactivated, so iTunes is necessary for restarting VO on the iPhone.
>> 
>> 
>> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
>> Email: [email protected]
>> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On 10/10/2012, at 0:27, Scott Howell <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>>> David,
>>> 
>>> I have to admit that I have not used this reboot procedure more than maybe 
>>> a couple of times, yet I have not encountered this issue. So, is there any 
>>> particular pattern to reproducing the problem? FOr example, rebooting 
>>> repeatedly (within a period of time) such as maybe every five minutes for 
>>> 10 times etc.? Perhaps rebooting the phone more than once a week? Also, is 
>>> there any particular app that has caused the condition which necessitated a 
>>> reboot? I am curious if there is in fact some pattern or application that 
>>> may be the cause for the loss of speech etc. when the phone is rebooted 
>>> using this technique.
>>> 
>>> On Oct 9, 2012, at 5:27 AM, David Chittenden <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I have now lost VO one time using this technique out of seven times I have 
>>>> used the technique on my iPhone 5. In addition to losing VO, my braille 
>>>> display would not connect after I started VO with iTunes. Also, VO was set 
>>>> to factory defaults. I had to do another power home reboot before the 
>>>> braille display drivers would load properly again. This is a fascinating 
>>>> little bug.
>>>> 
>>>> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
>>>> Email: [email protected]
>>>> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>> On 09/10/2012, at 22:09, Scott Howell <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> I have to agree I have not lost VO as a result of using this reset 
>>>>> technique.
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Oct 9, 2012, at 12:05 AM, Katey Glass <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> I have used holding the power button and home button to reset the iPhone 
>>>>>> and iPad many times and I havne't lost VO ever.  Maybe reset is not the 
>>>>>> proper phrase as we are not technically resetting any settings, but 
>>>>>> rather just clearing out memory "cobwebs" on the phone or pad.  
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> At any rate, I have indeed held both power button and home button and 
>>>>>> waited 10 seconds an d the device comes back talking.  
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Katey 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Oct 8, 2012, at 9:42 PM, "Kathy Blackburn" <[email protected]> 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I wrote to [email protected] and was told that the hard re-set, 
>>>>>>> holding down the home and sleep/wake buttons at the same time, does 
>>>>>>> indeed result in loss of VoiceOver and does so by design. In order to 
>>>>>>> get VoiceOver back, you must either get sighted help or connect the 
>>>>>>> phone to a computer and re-enable VoiceOver using iTunes. Moral of 
>>>>>>> story: power off only by holding down sleep/wake until the slider 
>>>>>>> appears and then double-tap.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Kathy Blackburn
>>>>>>> [email protected] 
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