I sent a message to Apple and they wrote back telling me, in effect, don't use home and power button to reboot the phone. I only did this when I could not get things straightened out. I think more people need to report this unless they have done this on purpose.
Reggie and Brooks On Oct 9, 2012, at 5:59 PM, Grant Hardy <[email protected]> wrote: David, That is very bizarre indeed and certainly shouldn't be happening by design. Sounds like a bug that should be reported to Apple accessibility. Do you ever lose VoiceOver when rebooting your phone normally? Also, not to get into a whole debate about resets and crashes again, but I don't know that this procedure should be carried out on a daily basis. Yes it's officially condoned by Apple, but only if powering off and on the phone isn't working normally. It may not "crash" the phone but it's certainly a "safety mechanism" that isn't meant to be used unless normal operation of the phone isn't working. Grant On 10/9/12, David Chittenden <[email protected]> wrote: > Scott, > > I have not yet been able to figure out any patterns yet. I managed to make > it lose VO again by having my braille display connected when I did the power > home reboot. The most annoying thing is that the rotors are both set back to > factory defaults each time VO is switched off. Also, triple-click home is > deactivated, so iTunes is necessary for restarting VO on the iPhone. > > > David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA > Email: [email protected] > Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 > Sent from my iPhone > > On 10/10/2012, at 0:27, Scott Howell <[email protected]> wrote: > >> David, >> >> I have to admit that I have not used this reboot procedure more than maybe >> a couple of times, yet I have not encountered this issue. So, is there any >> particular pattern to reproducing the problem? FOr example, rebooting >> repeatedly (within a period of time) such as maybe every five minutes for >> 10 times etc.? Perhaps rebooting the phone more than once a week? Also, is >> there any particular app that has caused the condition which necessitated >> a reboot? I am curious if there is in fact some pattern or application >> that may be the cause for the loss of speech etc. when the phone is >> rebooted using this technique. >> >> On Oct 9, 2012, at 5:27 AM, David Chittenden <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> I have now lost VO one time using this technique out of seven times I >>> have used the technique on my iPhone 5. In addition to losing VO, my >>> braille display would not connect after I started VO with iTunes. Also, >>> VO was set to factory defaults. I had to do another power home reboot >>> before the braille display drivers would load properly again. This is a >>> fascinating little bug. >>> >>> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA >>> Email: [email protected] >>> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On 09/10/2012, at 22:09, Scott Howell <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> I have to agree I have not lost VO as a result of using this reset >>>> technique. >>>> >>>> On Oct 9, 2012, at 12:05 AM, Katey Glass <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I have used holding the power button and home button to reset the >>>>> iPhone and iPad many times and I havne't lost VO ever. Maybe reset is >>>>> not the proper phrase as we are not technically resetting any settings, >>>>> but rather just clearing out memory "cobwebs" on the phone or pad. >>>>> >>>>> At any rate, I have indeed held both power button and home button and >>>>> waited 10 seconds an d the device comes back talking. >>>>> >>>>> Katey >>>>> >>>>> On Oct 8, 2012, at 9:42 PM, "Kathy Blackburn" <[email protected]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I wrote to [email protected] and was told that the hard re-set, >>>>>> holding down the home and sleep/wake buttons at the same time, does >>>>>> indeed result in loss of VoiceOver and does so by design. In order to >>>>>> get VoiceOver back, you must either get sighted help or connect the >>>>>> phone to a computer and re-enable VoiceOver using iTunes. Moral of >>>>>> story: power off only by holding down sleep/wake until the slider >>>>>> appears and then double-tap. >>>>>> >>>>>> Kathy Blackburn >>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>> -- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" >>>>>> Google Group. >>>>>> To search the VIPhone public archive, visit >>>>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/. >>>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>>> [email protected]. >>>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" >>>>> Google Group. >>>>> To search the VIPhone public archive, visit >>>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/. >>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>> [email protected]. >>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" >>>> Google Group. >>>> To search the VIPhone public archive, visit >>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/. >>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> [email protected]. >>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" >>> Google Group. >>> To search the VIPhone public archive, visit >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/. >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> [email protected]. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" >> Google Group. >> To search the VIPhone public archive, visit >> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected]. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google > Group. > To search the VIPhone public archive, visit > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. 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