Thats the whole problem of the blind community sit back and relax! And do nothing! Moan and complain about bugs on forums for the blind and for the rest DO NOTHING!!!! Nothing at all! I live in Belgium and 3 of the most read newspapers in Flanders are totally 100% inaccessible with voiceover!!! Whenever you open an article the app will close when using voiceover.

I am the only blind chap that lodged a complaint against the app distributors but standing alone I can do nothing, therefore I urge people on the list not to tell but even bomb bomb and bomb again Apples's servers with our accessibility bug reports!

I have called an Apple employee about the brail bug that when typing numbers and hearing voiceover speaking other signs or the bug with the phone trying to unlock the screen when listening to music with wired earpads, they got very few reports about that. For those so I guess 97% of the community being reluctant to report errors I'd advice maybe to buy a perkins brail machine again for typing purposes and an abacus as a calculator.
Davy
Davy
-----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- From: Peter Logan
Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2020 3:01 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: Pétition · Apple: Apple, commit to never again willfully excluding disabled people from public betas · Change.org

Can't agree more .. I also installed the beta .. without reading the release notes .. so it's on me .. not Apple .. and I will wait for it to get fixed .. I'm not going to scream and holler at Apple for my stupidity .. Everyone needs to just relax .. Until this go around .. there wasn't even a Watch beta ..



-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Donna Casteen
Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2020 2:17 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Pétition · Apple: Apple, commit to never again willfully excluding disabled people from public betas · Change.org

I can't believe such a petition was started!!🙄🤦🏻‍♀️ This petition was started because an Apple watch user went against Apple's WARNING to NEVER install beta versions of IOS on ANY Appple device that is YOUR main device! Of course, this person just HAD to have the beta update & installed the beta version on their Apple watch that they RELY on & USE daily! Beta versions of any program WILL have bugs. The fact that Apple is a company that stands behind their products making them accessible for the blind & those with other disabilities, does NOT exclude Apple's beta versions of IOS from having bugs. Nor does this bug prevent those who are blind taking part in the public beta testing process. Apple was FULLY aware of the voiceover bug Associated with ALL Apple watches. And fully WARNED voiceover users with Apple watches of the bug. Apple also informed voiceover users that they were working on fixing the voiceover bug, so that voiceover users could participate in the public beta testing program. Placing the blame on Apple & criticizing Apple for a problem that they were working toward fixing, is wrong. The Blame solely lies with Apple watch user(s), who in their poor judgement decided to install the public beta on a device, in which is used daily.

It is very important that blind iDevice users participate in Apple's beta testing program, otherwise voiceover or low vision features of the iDevices would always have major bugs, making the iDevices unusable. Apple is a large company. The population that is blind & who use Apple products is very small. If this type of placing blame where it is obvious it does not belong & publically criticizing Apple for something that at the time was out of their control, but Apple was working toward fixing: Apple is in the end going to do 1 of 2 things 1. No longer let blind users participate in the beta testing process. Apple can do this by stopping all public beta testing. 2. Apple throws in the towel, giving up on trying to make their products accessible for such a small population of people. Neither of these scenarios are in the best interest of blind iDevice users.

When beta testing follow Apple's guidelines or otherwise DO NOT complain when your device stops working!

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