The only way I was able to get rid of the screen recognition even after turning 
it back off was to completely restart the phone. It really does make apps 
unusable. 

The text editing bugs are a real pain even if using the secondary language 
profile. When I want to delete multiple characters, I’ll usually double tap and 
hold on the delete button and with another finger, split tap as many times as I 
want to go back. This has worked fine, but now, if I do that, I’m taken to the 
beginning of the edit field. Not… ideal.

VO can’t seem to maintain focus on the dictate button either. It just flickers 
and studders and the haptic feedback goes off as if the phone’s doing the 
jitterbug if trying to navigate to it. I’ve resorted to using the two finger 
double tap in the edit field to invoke dictation which means I more often than 
not have to now use two hands instead of just one hand which is more annoying.

Don’t’ even try to share an item via the share sheet. VO is all sorts of buggy 
to the point where you can’t do anything. It’s jumpy, gets stuck on elements 
and in short makes this feature completely useless now.

VoiceOver says toolbar when on the toolbar. I mean… it seems like it’s one of 
those well intentione things where more description is better, but after the 
umpteenth time… So not necessary.

I’m really considering rolling back to iOS 13.7. 

 

Cristóbal

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2020 7:06 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Moderate and minor bugs plus Accessibility improvements from 
Applevis.com

 

Applevis listed no serious bugs.

 

Moderate Bugs

*       On occasions, there may be a ‘lag’ in VoiceOver speech; or your device 
might feel generally less responsive than it was on iOS 13. It should be noted 
that not all of our testers experienced this issue, and we believe the severity 
of the issue is likely somewhat subjective. One workaround is to switch to a 
VoiceOver voice that does not exhibit this behaviour, though this may take some 
trial and error to find a voice that works for you. A slightly more involved 
workaround is to add a second voice to VoiceOver's language rotor; set the 
voice in that secondary language to your preferred voice; then use the rotor to 
switch to your preferred voice in the secondary language. Our experience 
indicates that the latter workaround can make VoiceOver and your device more 
responsive, even though you are still using the same voice - just not as the 
"default" language. It has also been suggested that deleting and re-downloading 
your preferred VoiceOver voice can resolve this behavior.
*       On some web pages in Safari; web views in apps; and pages in apps, you 
may find that VoiceOver focus will spontaneously ‘jump’ to another UI element. 
This behaviour does not appear to be widespread, but can make navigation 
difficult and confusing when it does occur. One example of this behaviour can 
typically be seen with Google search results when using the VoiceOver rotor to 
navigate by heading. Similar behaviour has also been noticed inside some apps. 
Our suspicion is that this is when an app uses HTML in the code that generates 
the page. One example of this behaviour in an app is the App Store app. In this 
app, if you go to the Today tab; double tap on “My Account”; and then 
double-tap on your name, the contents of the ‘Account’ page and many that it 
link to are extremely difficult to navigate due to VoiceOver focus constantly 
‘jumping’.
*       When editing a typed note using a braille display, information about 
the text field will randomly display and cause VoiceOver to wrongly show the 
cursor at the top of the document.
*       The ‘Radio’ tab in the native Music app contains some graphical UI 
elements which are not recognized by VoiceOver and can interfere with the 
movement of VoiceOver focus when swiping through the contents of this tab. This 
behaviour may understandably have you assume that there is nothing more on this 
screen, when in fact there is. To fully discover everything which is accessible 
on this screen, we recommend that you make use of the 3 finger swipe up or down 
to scroll the screen contents and explore using a combination of touch, the 
scroll bar, and swiping. Additionally, you are likely to encounter a number of 
“Play” and “Schedule” buttons on this tab, where the UI element they are 
associated with is not recognized or spoken by VoiceOver.
*       There are a number of issues with the new widgets introduced with iOS 
14 and iPadOS 14. In some cases, this results in VoiceOver focus getting 
‘stuck’ when swiping through widgets on the Today view or the Today view not 
scrolling to make all widgets accessible to VoiceOver. Also, on occasions, the 
VoiceOver rotor's Action menu may not be present or work as expected on stacked 
widgets.
*       The performance of Apple's new VoiceOver recognition features is 
inconsistent and unreliable, particularly that of Screen Recognition. It should 
be noted that these features are a work-in-progress, and your mileage may vary. 
As things are now, you should expect to find that there will be situations 
where having one or more of these features enabled will provide a worse 
experience than having them disabled.
*       The Detected Text feature that's part of the VoiceOver Recognition 
features does not work with braille displays.

Minor Bugs

*       There are situations system-wide where you will find that some 
VoiceOver voices will announce punctuation such as apostrophes and quotation 
marks when they should not be spoken. One workaround is to switch to a voice 
that does not exhibit this behaviour. A slightly more involved workaround is to 
add a second voice to VoiceOver's language rotor; set the voice in that 
secondary language to your preferred voice; then use the rotor to switch to 
your preferred voice in the secondary language. Note that it may take some 
trial and error to find a voice that will behave as expected for your specific 
region and language needs.
*       After assigning a braille display command to VoiceOver Recognition, 
pressing the command will not toggle the feature.
*       When using a braille display, after modifying the layout of the Home 
screen (such as adding or deleting an app), pressing space with dots 4-5-6 no 
longer functions.
*       On occasions, when editing the Today view, it is not possible to swipe 
to the ‘Done’ and ‘Add Widget' buttons located at the top of the screen (note 
that they can be located by touch).
*       On occasions, when editing the App Library screen available on iOS 14, 
it is not possible to swipe to the ‘Done’ button located at the top of the 
screen (note that it can be located by touch).
*       On occasions, VoiceOver will not announce “Control Center” when the 
Control Center is activated.
*       In the Translate app that's new in iOS 14 and iPadOS 14, , the ‘drag’ 
options available from the VoiceOver rotor when on translated items do not work.
*       VoiceOver speaks “New line” when announcing the languages in the new 
Translate app. For example, “Spanish Spain” is spoken as “Spanish. New line. 
Spain.”
*       In the Translate app, there is an unlabelled UI element on the Listen 
screen. If you activate the ‘Listen’ button and swipe to explore the screen, 
you will notice a dimmed text field, a 'Close’ button, as well as an element 
that is not identified by VoiceOver and which does not appear to do anything 
when activated.
*       On iPhone or iPod touch and in the last page of a Home screen folder, 
performing a three-finger swipe to the left will wrongly load the App Library.
*       When navigating the App Library on iPhone or iPod touch using the 
Containers option from VoiceOver's rotor, the page does not scroll beyond what 
is currently visually on screen.
*       When running a Shortcut that prompts the user to select from a menu, 
VoiceOver users are unable to dismiss the menu with a gesture (something which 
can be done when VoiceOver is not enabled).

If you encounter any additional accessibility bugs in iOS 14 or iPadOS 14, 
please let others know by posting a reply below. When doing so, please provide 
as much information as possible so that others know exactly what to expect; 
when and where the problem occurs; and any possible workarounds you have found.

Accessibility Improvements in iOS 14 and iPadOS 14

Our testing suggests that the following pre-existing accessibility bugs have 
been resolved or partially addressed in iOS 14 and iPadOS 14:

*       Apple has continued to make improvements in regard to the consistency 
and reliability of behavior when both Dark Mode and Smart Invert are enabled. 
There are still situations system-wide where the colors used may not be optimal 
or consistent in behavior, but our experience suggests that these are fewer in 
number. The color inversion of websites in Safari also appears to be improved; 
and our suspicion is that in some cases where this does not work as desired, it 
is actually due to the website rather than iOS and iPadOS.
*       When deleting text from a text field, the audio and haptic feedback 
that follows each deletion is no longer that which should indicate that you 
have reached the start of the text field (unless you actually have).
*       When answering a phone call using the 2-finger Double-Tap ('Magic Tap') 
gesture, the vibrations which accompany the ringer now stop as soon as the 
gesture is performed.
*       When listening to an audio file in the Files app, flicking up or down 
on the playback scrubber control will now move the playback position.
*       You can now navigate by line when composing a message in the Mail app, 
although there is no audible feedback as you would expect (and is what you hear 
when navigating by character or word).
*       Apple has made some improvements in regard to the frequency and number 
of situations in which VoiceOver focus will spontaneously 'jump' to another UI 
element. There are still some occasions when this does happen (most notably the 
behavior in Safari and some apps mentioned in our list of new moderate bugs), 
but this issue appears to be much improved.
*       The Edit menu in VoiceOver's rotor is now more consistently and 
reliably present when VoiceOver focus is in a text field.
*       The Two-Finger Double-Tap ('Magic Tap') gesture once again reliably 
works to pause and resume audio playback in Safari.

 

 

 

Richard

"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

 

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