,yes i had tryed everything that's not helped. נשלח מה-iPhone שלי
> ב-18 בספט׳ 2020, בשעה 17:40, Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com> > כתב/ה: > > > Have you cleared out the app switcher and rebooted? > > > > > Richard > "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass > himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient > hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not > granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward > Herbert > >>> On Sep 18, 2020, at 7:34 AM, ליאל בן סימון <liel...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >> >> Hi, i have an iPhone XS and i have lags with Voice Over. When i am. >> Entering to Voice Over Settings when braille display is connected Voice >> Over crashing to me nun stop. I csn't tyeping on my braille display in >> Hebrew language only in English. >> >> נשלח מה-iPhone שלי >> >>> ב-18 בספט׳ 2020, בשעה 16:38, Devin Prater <r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com> >>> כתב/ה: >>> >>> >>> VO Recognition isn't supposed to be kept on. You enable it in settings, >>> that is, download the ML stuff for it, then you turn it on in inaccessible >>> apps, not system wide. >>> Devin Prater >>> sent from Gmail. >>> >>> >>>> On Thu, Sep 17, 2020 at 5:09 PM Richard Turner >>>> <richardturne...@outlook.com> wrote: >>>> Even if you report that to Apple Accessibility, it can help. >>>> The Voice Recognition stuff, in my opinion, should have been kept on the >>>> drawing board and not released. >>>> It is mostly useless. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Richard >>>> "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass >>>> himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient >>>> hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not >>>> granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - >>>> Edward Herbert >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of >>>> jasmine.kot...@gmail.com >>>> Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2020 3:00 PM >>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>>> Subject: RE: Moderate and minor bugs plus Accessibility improvements from >>>> Applevis.com >>>> >>>> My issue was that after turning the voiceover recognition, and everything >>>> that goes with it, on, it was not easy to navigate my phone, such as >>>> messages or Whatsapp. I even had a hard time turning things on and off in >>>> settings. I finally got Voiceover recognition off and restarted my phone, >>>> and it seems to be fine. >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of >>>> Cristóbal Muñoz >>>> Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2020 2:56 PM >>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>>> Subject: RE: Moderate and minor bugs plus Accessibility improvements from >>>> Applevis.com >>>> >>>> Ok...? so, which issue and how did you resolve it? >>>> >>>> Cristóbal >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of >>>> jasmine.kot...@gmail.com >>>> Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2020 2:52 PM >>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>>> Subject: RE: Moderate and minor bugs plus Accessibility improvements from >>>> Applevis.com >>>> >>>> Hi, >>>> I had the same issue, but since I've already resolved it, I can't send >>>> anything to Apple. >>>> >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of >>>> Cristóbal Muñoz >>>> Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2020 11:35 AM >>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>>> Subject: RE: Moderate and minor bugs plus Accessibility improvements from >>>> Applevis.com >>>> >>>> As I mentioned previously, in my case, I did restart the phone to get rid >>>> of whatever funkiness was still going on after disabling the screen >>>> recognition feature. This was the only way I could get the apps working as >>>> before. >>>> It looks like I'm not the only one dealing with the really annoying VO >>>> element bug either. >>>> https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.applevis.com%2Fforum%2Fios-ipados%2Fsevere-voiceover-bug-when-navigating-html-content&data=02%7C01%7C%7C792b2a7e5228451fb5cd08d85b550d3a%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637359768130129235&sdata=QkzAoNvtQp0VJCgRTtkhXrFSaMbIs7Le1jOTFOV4RMY%3D&reserved=0 >>>> I reached out to Apple accessibility regarding the same. They requested I >>>> provide a screen recording as well as system log of the event. Which I did. >>>> Same issue. When trying to upload both items to my Google Drive so I could >>>> share it with them, VO got stuck after selecting Drive in the sharesheet. >>>> I needed my sighted wife's help to complete the process both times. She >>>> said that it looked like VO was getting stuck no matter how much I flicked >>>> and swiped. >>>> Goes without saying, if others are experiencing the same issue. Reach out >>>> to Apple to let them know. This is proving to be a rather annoying and >>>> disruptive bug. >>>> >>>> Cristóbal >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of >>>> Wayne Merritt >>>> Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2020 9:35 AM >>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>>> Subject: Re: Moderate and minor bugs plus Accessibility improvements from >>>> Applevis.com >>>> >>>> For what it's worth, I think it is always a good idea to restart one's >>>> phone after an update, whether it's a minor or major update, to insure >>>> there's no issues or glitches. Sorry you've had a bad go of it. >>>> Hopefully 14.1 will resolve some of your issues, or you can get back to >>>> 13.7 until Apple puts out fixes. >>>> >>>> Wayne >>>> >>>> On 9/17/20, Cristóbal Muñoz <cristobalm...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> > The only way I was able to get rid of the screen recognition even >>>> > after turning it back off was to completely restart the phone. It >>>> > really does make apps unusable. >>>> > >>>> > The text editing bugs are a real pain even if using the secondary >>>> > language profile. When I want to delete multiple characters, I’ll >>>> > usually double tap and hold on the delete button and with another >>>> > finger, split tap as many times as I want to go back. This has worked >>>> > fine, but now, if I do that, I’m taken to the beginning of the edit >>>> > field. Not… ideal. >>>> > >>>> > VO can’t seem to maintain focus on the dictate button either. It just >>>> > flickers and studders and the haptic feedback goes off as if the >>>> > phone’s doing the jitterbug if trying to navigate to it. I’ve resorted >>>> > to using the two finger double tap in the edit field to invoke >>>> > dictation which means I more often than not have to now use two hands >>>> > instead of just one hand which is more annoying. >>>> > >>>> > Don’t’ even try to share an item via the share sheet. VO is all sorts >>>> > of buggy to the point where you can’t do anything. It’s jumpy, gets >>>> > stuck on elements and in short makes this feature completely useless now. >>>> > >>>> > VoiceOver says toolbar when on the toolbar. I mean… it seems like it’s >>>> > one of those well intentione things where more description is better, >>>> > but after the umpteenth time… So not necessary. >>>> > >>>> > I’m really considering rolling back to iOS 13.7. >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > Cristóbal >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of >>>> > Richard Turner >>>> > Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2020 7:06 AM >>>> > To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>>> > Subject: Moderate and minor bugs plus Accessibility improvements from >>>> > Applevis.com >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > Applevis listed no serious bugs. >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > Moderate Bugs >>>> > >>>> > * On occasions, there may be a ‘lag’ in VoiceOver speech; or your >>>> > device >>>> > might feel generally less responsive than it was on iOS 13. It should >>>> > be noted that not all of our testers experienced this issue, and we >>>> > believe the severity of the issue is likely somewhat subjective. One >>>> > workaround is to switch to a VoiceOver voice that does not exhibit >>>> > this behaviour, though this may take some trial and error to find a >>>> > voice that works for you. A slightly more involved workaround is to >>>> > add a second voice to VoiceOver's language rotor; set the voice in >>>> > that secondary language to your preferred voice; then use the rotor to >>>> > switch to your preferred voice in the secondary language. Our >>>> > experience indicates that the latter workaround can make VoiceOver and >>>> > your device more responsive, even though you are still using the same >>>> > voice - just not as the "default" language. It has also been suggested >>>> > that deleting and re-downloading your preferred VoiceOver voice can >>>> > resolve this behavior. >>>> > * On some web pages in Safari; web views in apps; and pages in apps, >>>> > you may >>>> > find that VoiceOver focus will spontaneously ‘jump’ to another UI >>>> > element. >>>> > This behaviour does not appear to be widespread, but can make >>>> > navigation difficult and confusing when it does occur. One example of >>>> > this behaviour can typically be seen with Google search results when >>>> > using the VoiceOver rotor to navigate by heading. Similar behaviour >>>> > has also been noticed inside some apps. Our suspicion is that this is >>>> > when an app uses HTML in the code that generates the page. One example >>>> > of this behaviour in an app is the App Store app. In this app, if you >>>> > go to the Today tab; double tap on “My Account”; and then double-tap on >>>> > your name, the contents of the ‘Account’ >>>> > page and many that it link to are extremely difficult to navigate due >>>> > to VoiceOver focus constantly ‘jumping’. >>>> > * When editing a typed note using a braille display, information >>>> > about the >>>> > text field will randomly display and cause VoiceOver to wrongly show >>>> > the cursor at the top of the document. >>>> > * The ‘Radio’ tab in the native Music app contains some graphical UI >>>> > elements which are not recognized by VoiceOver and can interfere with >>>> > the movement of VoiceOver focus when swiping through the contents of >>>> > this tab. >>>> > This behaviour may understandably have you assume that there is >>>> > nothing more on this screen, when in fact there is. To fully discover >>>> > everything which is accessible on this screen, we recommend that you >>>> > make use of the 3 finger swipe up or down to scroll the screen >>>> > contents and explore using a combination of touch, the scroll bar, and >>>> > swiping. Additionally, you are likely to encounter a number of “Play” >>>> > and “Schedule” buttons on this tab, where the UI element they are >>>> > associated with is not recognized or spoken by VoiceOver. >>>> > * There are a number of issues with the new widgets introduced with >>>> > iOS 14 >>>> > and iPadOS 14. In some cases, this results in VoiceOver focus getting >>>> > ‘stuck’ when swiping through widgets on the Today view or the Today >>>> > view not scrolling to make all widgets accessible to VoiceOver. Also, >>>> > on occasions, the VoiceOver rotor's Action menu may not be present or >>>> > work as expected on stacked widgets. >>>> > * The performance of Apple's new VoiceOver recognition features is >>>> > inconsistent and unreliable, particularly that of Screen Recognition. >>>> > It should be noted that these features are a work-in-progress, and >>>> > your mileage may vary. As things are now, you should expect to find >>>> > that there will be situations where having one or more of these >>>> > features enabled will provide a worse experience than having them >>>> > disabled. >>>> > * The Detected Text feature that's part of the VoiceOver Recognition >>>> > features does not work with braille displays. >>>> > >>>> > Minor Bugs >>>> > >>>> > * There are situations system-wide where you will find that some >>>> > VoiceOver >>>> > voices will announce punctuation such as apostrophes and quotation >>>> > marks when they should not be spoken. One workaround is to switch to a >>>> > voice that does not exhibit this behaviour. A slightly more involved >>>> > workaround is to add a second voice to VoiceOver's language rotor; set >>>> > the voice in that secondary language to your preferred voice; then use >>>> > the rotor to switch to your preferred voice in the secondary language. >>>> > Note that it may take some trial and error to find a voice that will >>>> > behave as expected for your specific region and language needs. >>>> > * After assigning a braille display command to VoiceOver Recognition, >>>> > pressing the command will not toggle the feature. >>>> > * When using a braille display, after modifying the layout of the >>>> > Home >>>> > screen (such as adding or deleting an app), pressing space with dots >>>> > 4-5-6 no longer functions. >>>> > * On occasions, when editing the Today view, it is not possible to >>>> > swipe to >>>> > the ‘Done’ and ‘Add Widget' buttons located at the top of the screen >>>> > (note that they can be located by touch). >>>> > * On occasions, when editing the App Library screen available on iOS >>>> > 14, it >>>> > is not possible to swipe to the ‘Done’ button located at the top of >>>> > the screen (note that it can be located by touch). >>>> > * On occasions, VoiceOver will not announce “Control Center” when the >>>> > Control Center is activated. >>>> > * In the Translate app that's new in iOS 14 and iPadOS 14, , the >>>> > ‘drag’ >>>> > options available from the VoiceOver rotor when on translated items do >>>> > not work. >>>> > * VoiceOver speaks “New line” when announcing the languages in the >>>> > new >>>> > Translate app. For example, “Spanish Spain” is spoken as “Spanish. New >>>> > line. >>>> > Spain.” >>>> > * In the Translate app, there is an unlabelled UI element on the >>>> > Listen >>>> > screen. If you activate the ‘Listen’ button and swipe to explore the >>>> > screen, you will notice a dimmed text field, a 'Close’ button, as well >>>> > as an element that is not identified by VoiceOver and which does not >>>> > appear to do anything when activated. >>>> > * On iPhone or iPod touch and in the last page of a Home screen >>>> > folder, >>>> > performing a three-finger swipe to the left will wrongly load the App >>>> > Library. >>>> > * When navigating the App Library on iPhone or iPod touch using the >>>> > Containers option from VoiceOver's rotor, the page does not scroll >>>> > beyond what is currently visually on screen. >>>> > * When running a Shortcut that prompts the user to select from a >>>> > menu, >>>> > VoiceOver users are unable to dismiss the menu with a gesture >>>> > (something which can be done when VoiceOver is not enabled). >>>> > >>>> > If you encounter any additional accessibility bugs in iOS 14 or iPadOS >>>> > 14, please let others know by posting a reply below. When doing so, >>>> > please provide as much information as possible so that others know >>>> > exactly what to expect; when and where the problem occurs; and any >>>> > possible workarounds you have found. >>>> > >>>> > Accessibility Improvements in iOS 14 and iPadOS 14 >>>> > >>>> > Our testing suggests that the following pre-existing accessibility >>>> > bugs have been resolved or partially addressed in iOS 14 and iPadOS 14: >>>> > >>>> > * Apple has continued to make improvements in regard to the >>>> > consistency and >>>> > reliability of behavior when both Dark Mode and Smart Invert are enabled. >>>> > There are still situations system-wide where the colors used may not >>>> > be optimal or consistent in behavior, but our experience suggests that >>>> > these are fewer in number. The color inversion of websites in Safari >>>> > also appears to be improved; and our suspicion is that in some cases >>>> > where this does not work as desired, it is actually due to the website >>>> > rather than iOS and iPadOS. >>>> > * When deleting text from a text field, the audio and haptic >>>> > feedback that >>>> > follows each deletion is no longer that which should indicate that you >>>> > have reached the start of the text field (unless you actually have). >>>> > * When answering a phone call using the 2-finger Double-Tap ('Magic >>>> > Tap') >>>> > gesture, the vibrations which accompany the ringer now stop as soon as >>>> > the gesture is performed. >>>> > * When listening to an audio file in the Files app, flicking up or >>>> > down on >>>> > the playback scrubber control will now move the playback position. >>>> > * You can now navigate by line when composing a message in the Mail >>>> > app, >>>> > although there is no audible feedback as you would expect (and is what >>>> > you hear when navigating by character or word). >>>> > * Apple has made some improvements in regard to the frequency and >>>> > number of >>>> > situations in which VoiceOver focus will spontaneously 'jump' to >>>> > another UI element. There are still some occasions when this does >>>> > happen (most notably the behavior in Safari and some apps mentioned in >>>> > our list of new moderate bugs), but this issue appears to be much >>>> > improved. >>>> > * The Edit menu in VoiceOver's rotor is now more consistently and >>>> > reliably >>>> > present when VoiceOver focus is in a text field. >>>> > * The Two-Finger Double-Tap ('Magic Tap') gesture once again >>>> > reliably works >>>> > to pause and resume audio playback in Safari. >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > Richard >>>> > >>>> > "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must >>>> > pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of >>>> > ancient hatreds among peoples. 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