To update some thoughts I had put out a few days ago, I will wait on
the 5G second generation before making that jump too. If I upgrade my
phone, it will be to an iPhone 11. I like the idea of night mode for
using Aira. Also, to those getting the 10R or 11, remember you may be
able to trade-in your current phone for credit on your account, or
even better to take off a little of the purchase price or monthly
payments for the next phone. $600 is pretty reasonable for the 11, but
what if it could be $100 cheaper or more.

Be well,
Wayne Merritt

On 10/15/20, Les Kriegler <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hi Mary, Alan and Interested Others,
> Well, Verizon will not take advantage of us. My wife and I will be getting
> iPhone 10R models. I know I can learn to use Face ID, and now is a good time
> to learn. I figure it will be a long time before we see 5G in our area. If I
> am mistaken and it happens within two years or so, we can upgrade if we
> wish. In the meantime, with the money we will save, my wife can upgrade her
> iPad if she wishes to do so. I appreciate all of the discussion on various
> iPhome models. It really helped me make a decision for myself and the
> recommendation I offered my wife.
> Best Regards,
>
> Les
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Mary
> Otten
> Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2020 1:57 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: Review iPhone 12 series??
>
> I am with you on 5G, Les and Alan. I think it’s a bunch of height,
> especially Verizon and their MM wave which is vanishingly difficult to
> actually connect to. So they’re ripping you off yet again. It’s interesting
> that both they and AT&T are giving a little subsidy on the iPhone. They must
> be desperate. I think the SE2 could be very compelling. That’s especially if
> you like a home button.
> I’m sticking with my 10 R.
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Oct 14, 2020, at 5:23 PM, Les Kriegler <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Alan,
>> I am also with you and Richard. I will share my experience in the hopes it
>> will help others. I have been a Verizon customer for many years. As a
>> result, I am on a Loyalty Plan for individuals 55 and older. I was
>> seriously considering the iPhone 12 Mini and had a lengthy conversation
>> with a Verizon rep. Then I asked about how this would affect our plan. I
>> learned that if I purchased a 5G capable phone, I would have to switch to
>> a 5g plan. Our bill would go up by $54 per month. It gets worse. I live in
>> a town which does not have 5G yet. No way to tell when that might come
>> here. So I would be paying an extra $54 per month for a service I cannot
>> use. Guess what I'm doing? I'm now looking at either the SEor the iPhone
>> 11 pro. I would welcome any comments pro or con about either phone. For
>> me, 5G is out. Even if it were available, I don't think it's worth an
>> extra $54 per month. Now, this could change, but it does not matter to me
>> at this point.
>> Best Regards,
>>
>> Les
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of
>> Alan Lemly
>> Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2020 4:43 PM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: RE: Review iPhone 12 series??
>>
>> I'm with Richard here. Be aware that all the hoopla about 5G will require
>> use of cellular data and I suspect that at some point, carriers will be
>> charging accordingly to recover whatever hardware they've priced low to
>> get you into their fold. I still intend to primarily use wifi since I'm
>> using my iPhone at home most of the time and don't intend to increase the
>> capacity of my cellular plan whether using 4G or 5G.
>>
>> Alan Lemly
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
>> Behalf Of Richard Turner
>> Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2020 8:48 AM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: RE: Review iPhone 12 series??
>>
>> I usually follow the motto that if it looks too good to be true, it
>> probably is.
>> What kind of contract commitments do they want with these amazing
>> pricings?
>>
>> If it locks you into a 2 year contract at a given level, I'd make sure I
>> understand the possible down sides.
>> If it is right for a person, then that's great!
>>
>>
>>
>> Richard
>> "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must
>> pass himself,  and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of
>> ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have
>> regretted not granting grace to others, I ve never once regretted
>> extending it.)" - Edward Herbert
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of
>> Wayne Merritt
>> Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2020 6:45 AM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: Re: Review iPhone 12 series??
>>
>> For those looking to upgrade to the new phones, I found some aggressive
>> pricing from AT&T and Verizon mentioned in the Apple Store app, like an
>> $800 credit from AT&T. They really want to get everyone on 5G, and same
>> from Verizon it looks like. I wasn't planning on getting one, but this may
>> change my mind. I've never heard of major carriers practically giving away
>> the new iPhone before.
>>
>> Best,
>> Wayne Merritt
>>
>>> On 10/13/20, Kelly Pierce <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> I always go for the iPhone with the latest processor so I have the
>>> maximum available iOS updates.  I like the possibility of wireless
>>> charging. If I git a 12 it will be the mini. I like a smaller size
>>> for easy one-handed use, and I have no need for the camera system on
>>> the pro.
>>>
>>>> On 10/13/20, Darshan Beniwal <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> Hi iPhone fans
>>>>
>>>> How did you find iPhone 12 series? Any recommendation or suggestion
>>>> about that. I'm planning to buy new iPhone. Is it a good choice to
>>>> buy iPhone
>>>> 12
>>>> or shall I go for its down versions?
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