Hey guys, when I taught my last iPhone class, I taught the rotar this way and 
it worked great. The student was able to pick it up quite well, lightly using 
the back of the hand as my surface I showed them how to turn the rotar and what 
to do and it worked perfectly, this also works for gestures, and tapping as 
well. Hope this helps. Thanks. 
On Nov 5, 2012, at 3:12 PM, Rob Harris wrote:

> I don't think i'd have trouble demonstrating as such, though this is going 
> to depend mostly on the comprehension of the trainee.
> 
> But you do the gesture on the back of their hand, while it is more or less 
> in situ with the iDevice, then they try and emulate what they feel you do. 
> You could step them through quite a lot as you do a gesture relative to what 
> was heard from VO and the trainee mirrors what you did;    and then you get 
> to pause and see if they make the right gesture and reproduce again as 
> necessary and so on.  Getting  into the right angle to use right hand on 
> right hand for example could be a bit tricky, but   this method sounds as 
> plausible as any.
> Trainer would need a light touch so as to not hamper the trainees movements, 
> but  we tend to have a knack of following the movements of a guide lightly 
> so they're not sure you're still there.
> 
> RobH.
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Alex Stone" <alexstone...@btinternet.com>
> To: <viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Sent: Monday, November 05, 2012 4:25 PM
> Subject: RE: Please help, can't figure out how to use the rotor on Iphone
> 
> 
> Cheryl, I completely agree, I would find it very difficult to demonstrate it 
> to someone. I’ve always described it to people as like turning a knob with 
> two fingers.
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Alex
> 
> 
> 
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
> Of Cheryl Homiak
> Sent: 05 November 2012 16:21
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Please help, can't figure out how to use the rotor on Iphone
> 
> 
> 
> Showing physically isn't that easy either when a person  can't see. You 
> can't exactly do it easily while somebody is touching your hand or force 
> their hand through it, or at least i can't. Besides, a lot of us don't 
> necessarily live where we have another blind person around to show us and 
> from what I understand the gestures sighted people use are somewhat 
> different. At least, none of my sighted friends can do their gestures with 
> vo on.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> 
> Cheryl
> 
> 
> 
> May the words of my mouth
> 
> and the meditation of my heart
> 
> be acceptable to You, Lord,
> 
> my rock and my Redeemer.
> 
> (Psalm 19:14 HCSB)
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Nov 5, 2012, at 10:11 AM, Søren Jensen <s...@coolfortheblind.dk> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Hi.
> 
> I haven't followed this discution, but sounds like she have to have someone 
> to show hur phicically how to do it. It can be pretty difficult to explain 
> how to do it, or some people find it difficult to understand without having 
> someone to show them how to do it.
> 
> Best regards:
> Søren Jensen
> Mail & MSN:
> s...@coolfortheblind.dk
> Website:
> http://www.coolfortheblind.dk/
> 
> 
> 
> Den 05/11/2012 kl. 17.08 skrev Cheryl Homiak <cahom...@gmail.com>:
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Yeah, I have a friend who can't do the rotor gesture. She has tried and 
> tried until she has dreams (actually I think she said nightmares) where she 
> is trying to do the rotor so I finally told her to put it on the back burner 
> for a while because it is driving her crazy. She has read the description in 
> the iPhone book from NBP and I've tried to describe it several different 
> ways but she just can't seem to do it.
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> 
> Cheryl
> 
> 
> 
> May the words of my mouth
> 
> and the meditation of my heart
> 
> be acceptable to You, Lord,
> 
> my rock and my Redeemer.
> 
> (Psalm 19:14 HCSB)
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Nov 5, 2012, at 5:05 AM, Mária Orovčíková <maria.orovcik...@gmail.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Hi again,
> it might sound silly, but although I have been Iphone user for quite a while 
> I still don't know how to use the rotor. I know how to do the gesture I just 
> cannot get it working. When I try the gesture I always open an application. 
> I use the rotor the way that I kind of flick with both hands the opposite 
> ways. It is not very practical. I know it is doable using one hand only.
> Please could you try and explain what I might have been doing wrong and how 
> to get it working using one-hand gesture?
> I hope my question does make sense.
> Thank you for your help.
>            With regards
> Maria
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