Both the two-handed and two-finger-turn-phone methods sound like they might be 
something my friend can do to give her a feel for how to do the rotor. I'm 
going to try these with her.

-- 
Cheryl

May the words of my mouth
and the meditation of my heart
be acceptable to You, Lord,
my rock and my Redeemer.
(Psalm 19:14 HCSB)



On Nov 5, 2012, at 3:35 PM, "[email protected]" 
<[email protected]> wrote:

> Simple way to do the rotor. I put two fingers with a space between them on 
> the screen. Then I turn the iPhone under my two fingers. After a while doing 
> it this way, I began feeling the movement and now I can do a little of the 
> movement with the phone still. I still need to move the phone, but I 
> understand the gesture. 
> 
> Reggie and Brooks
> 
> 
> On Nov 5, 2012, at 4:12 PM, Rob Harris <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> I don't think i'd have trouble demonstrating as such, though this is going 
> to depend mostly on the comprehension of the trainee.
> 
> But you do the gesture on the back of their hand, while it is more or less 
> in situ with the iDevice, then they try and emulate what they feel you do. 
> You could step them through quite a lot as you do a gesture relative to what 
> was heard from VO and the trainee mirrors what you did;    and then you get 
> to pause and see if they make the right gesture and reproduce again as 
> necessary and so on.  Getting  into the right angle to use right hand on 
> right hand for example could be a bit tricky, but   this method sounds as 
> plausible as any.
> Trainer would need a light touch so as to not hamper the trainees movements, 
> but  we tend to have a knack of following the movements of a guide lightly 
> so they're not sure you're still there.
> 
> RobH.
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Alex Stone" <[email protected]>
> To: <[email protected]>
> Sent: Monday, November 05, 2012 4:25 PM
> Subject: RE: Please help, can't figure out how to use the rotor on Iphone
> 
> 
> Cheryl, I completely agree, I would find it very difficult to demonstrate it 
> to someone. I’ve always described it to people as like turning a knob with 
> two fingers.
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Alex
> 
> 
> 
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf 
> Of Cheryl Homiak
> Sent: 05 November 2012 16:21
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: Please help, can't figure out how to use the rotor on Iphone
> 
> 
> 
> Showing physically isn't that easy either when a person  can't see. You 
> can't exactly do it easily while somebody is touching your hand or force 
> their hand through it, or at least i can't. Besides, a lot of us don't 
> necessarily live where we have another blind person around to show us and 
> from what I understand the gestures sighted people use are somewhat 
> different. At least, none of my sighted friends can do their gestures with 
> vo on.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> 
> Cheryl
> 
> 
> 
> May the words of my mouth
> 
> and the meditation of my heart
> 
> be acceptable to You, Lord,
> 
> my rock and my Redeemer.
> 
> (Psalm 19:14 HCSB)
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Nov 5, 2012, at 10:11 AM, Søren Jensen <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Hi.
> 
> I haven't followed this discution, but sounds like she have to have someone 
> to show hur phicically how to do it. It can be pretty difficult to explain 
> how to do it, or some people find it difficult to understand without having 
> someone to show them how to do it.
> 
> Best regards:
> Søren Jensen
> Mail & MSN:
> [email protected]
> Website:
> http://www.coolfortheblind.dk/
> 
> 
> 
> Den 05/11/2012 kl. 17.08 skrev Cheryl Homiak <[email protected]>:
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Yeah, I have a friend who can't do the rotor gesture. She has tried and 
> tried until she has dreams (actually I think she said nightmares) where she 
> is trying to do the rotor so I finally told her to put it on the back burner 
> for a while because it is driving her crazy. She has read the description in 
> the iPhone book from NBP and I've tried to describe it several different 
> ways but she just can't seem to do it.
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> 
> Cheryl
> 
> 
> 
> May the words of my mouth
> 
> and the meditation of my heart
> 
> be acceptable to You, Lord,
> 
> my rock and my Redeemer.
> 
> (Psalm 19:14 HCSB)
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Nov 5, 2012, at 5:05 AM, Mária Orovčíková <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Hi again,
> it might sound silly, but although I have been Iphone user for quite a while 
> I still don't know how to use the rotor. I know how to do the gesture I just 
> cannot get it working. When I try the gesture I always open an application. 
> I use the rotor the way that I kind of flick with both hands the opposite 
> ways. It is not very practical. I know it is doable using one hand only.
> Please could you try and explain what I might have been doing wrong and how 
> to get it working using one-hand gesture?
> I hope my question does make sense.
> Thank you for your help.
>           With regards
> Maria
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