You’re right; I talked to someone this morning, and I couldn’t hear VoiceOVer. 
I think there may be a setting buried somewhere that changes this behavior; it 
might be worth checking with Apple Accessibility if it’s not possible for the 
person to call on a different phone.

Best,
Anna


> On Aug 22, 2022, at 9:43 AM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
> 
> As far as my experience goes, one cannot hear Voiceover unless using another 
> phone, which I do when talking to Apple Accessibility; they can hear 
> Voiceover then. Otherwise a caller can't. Sometimes, while talking to 
> someone, I'll go in and check weather or texts messages, etc. They cannot 
> hear it when I do that. I have gotten other phone numbers for people, and 
> they cannot hear Voiceover. 
> 
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> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
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> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: is there a way?
> 
> Anna,
> 
> Has something changed?  The microphone never used to pick up what VoiceOver 
> was saying while I was on a phone call and I thought if that is the case 
> anyway, the person being helped might be able to concentrate more with the 
> earphones…
> 
> But if VoiceOver comes through on the phone, that would be ideal.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
> 
> “People demand freedom of speech as a compensation for the freedom of thought 
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> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Anna 
> Dresner
> Sent: Monday, August 22, 2022 6:57 AM
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> Subject: Re: is there a way?
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> 
> 
> Hi,
> 
> 
> 
> I would suggest that your friend not use headphones. That way, you could hear 
> VoiceOver as they work.
> 
> 
> 
> Best,
> 
> Anna
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>       On Aug 22, 2022, at 8:36 AM, Richard Turner 
> <richardr_tur...@comcast.net <mailto:richardr_tur...@comcast.net> > wrote:
> 
>        
> 
>       If the iPhone is their only phone; you still could simply call him.
> 
>       I'd recommend he use earphones, but you could tell him things to do; 
> and he could try them while on the call with you. The downside is you won't 
> hear what his VoiceOver is saying, but he could report to you what it says. 
> This will be tedious, but can be done.
> 
>       I've also heard that Teamviewer quick support can be used; but he would 
> have to be able to download the app, etc; which sounds unlikely at this point.
> 
>        
> 
>        
> 
>        
> 
>        
> 
>       Richard
> 
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> little consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John Ruskin
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>       My web site: https://www.turner42.com
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>       
>       
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> 
>               On Aug 22, 2022, at 4:03 AM, Chris Chaffin 
> <chaffin102...@gmail.com <mailto:chaffin102...@gmail.com> > wrote:
> 
>               Just a thought.  Have you considered trying to use Screen 
> Recording to record little sessions and then sending them to your friend?  
> BlindAbilities just did a podcast on how to use the screen recording feature. 
>  I would recommend giving it a listen to see if it is something you could 
> use.  Here is the link.
>               
>               Check out episode: iPhone101: A Deeper Dive - Screen Recording 
> on the iPhone and other iDevices - It's not just for Videos. @BlindAbilities
>               https://blindabilities.com/
>               
>               
>               
> 
>                       On Aug 22, 2022, at 2:57 AM, Curtis Delzer 
> <cur...@calweb.com <mailto:cur...@calweb.com> > wrote:
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>                        
> 
>                       My friend just got a new iPhone and sure needs help!  
> Is there a way to set up a session where I could walk him through stuff like 
> JFW tandem?
> 
>                        
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>                       thanks
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