Anna, there is a setting to change VoiceOver. It’s in Accessibility. Anthony

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> On Aug 22, 2022, at 1:55 PM, Arnold Schmidt <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> It has been a while since I have had to do this, but I think I remember that 
> Apple Accessibility can log onto a phone and see what is on the screen, they 
> can not manipulate that screen. The person getting help has to do the screen 
> manipulation, but Apple Accessibility can tell them what to do and how to do 
> it. It is not the same as their being able to do a tandem with the person, 
> but maybe half way. Or, maybe I don't remember this as well as I think I do.  
> 
> Arnold Schmidt 
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> On Aug 22, 2022, at 12:32 PM, Anna Dresner <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> You’re right; I talked to someone this morning, and I couldn’t hear 
> VoiceOVer. I think there may be a setting buried somewhere that changes this 
> behavior; it might be worth checking with Apple Accessibility if it’s not 
> possible for the person to call on a different phone.
> 
> Best,
> Anna
> 
> 
>> On Aug 22, 2022, at 9:43 AM, Carolyn <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> As far as my experience goes, one cannot hear Voiceover unless using another 
>> phone, which I do when talking to Apple Accessibility; they can hear 
>> Voiceover then. Otherwise a caller can't. Sometimes, while talking to 
>> someone, I'll go in and check weather or texts messages, etc. They cannot 
>> hear it when I do that. I have gotten other phone numbers for people, and 
>> they cannot hear Voiceover. 
>> 
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>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf 
>> Of Richard Turner
>> Sent: Monday, August 22, 2022 10:03 AM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: RE: is there a way?
>> 
>> Anna,
>> 
>> Has something changed?  The microphone never used to pick up what VoiceOver 
>> was saying while I was on a phone call and I thought if that is the case 
>> anyway, the person being helped might be able to concentrate more with the 
>> earphones…
>> 
>> But if VoiceOver comes through on the phone, that would be ideal.
>> 
>> 
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>> 
>> Richard
>> 
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>> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Anna 
>> Dresner
>> Sent: Monday, August 22, 2022 6:57 AM
>> To: VIPhone Mailing List <[email protected]>
>> Subject: Re: is there a way?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I would suggest that your friend not use headphones. That way, you could 
>> hear VoiceOver as they work.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Best,
>> 
>> Anna
>> 
>> 
>> 
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>>   On Aug 22, 2022, at 8:36 AM, Richard Turner <[email protected] 
>> <mailto:[email protected]> > wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>   If the iPhone is their only phone; you still could simply call him.
>> 
>>   I'd recommend he use earphones, but you could tell him things to do; and 
>> he could try them while on the call with you. The downside is you won't hear 
>> what his VoiceOver is saying, but he could report to you what it says. This 
>> will be tedious, but can be done.
>> 
>>   I've also heard that Teamviewer quick support can be used; but he would 
>> have to be able to download the app, etc; which sounds unlikely at this 
>> point.
>> 
>> 
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>> 
>> 
>>   Richard
>> 
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>> consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John Ruskin
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>>       On Aug 22, 2022, at 4:03 AM, Chris Chaffin <[email protected] 
>> <mailto:[email protected]> > wrote:
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>>       Just a thought.  Have you considered trying to use Screen Recording 
>> to record little sessions and then sending them to your friend?  
>> BlindAbilities just did a podcast on how to use the screen recording 
>> feature.  I would recommend giving it a listen to see if it is something you 
>> could use.  Here is the link.
>> 
>>       Check out episode: iPhone101: A Deeper Dive - Screen Recording on the 
>> iPhone and other iDevices - It's not just for Videos. @BlindAbilities
>>       https://blindabilities.com/
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>>           On Aug 22, 2022, at 2:57 AM, Curtis Delzer <[email protected] 
>> <mailto:[email protected]> > wrote:
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>> 
>>           My friend just got a new iPhone and sure needs help!  Is there a 
>> way to set up a session where I could walk him through stuff like JFW tandem?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>           thanks
>> 
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