Sieghard I have eight iPhone 12 mini and I haven’t really been happy with the battery life. It doesn’t meet my needs. So I think this is the only thing that makes sense. I like the idea of the start up chime and so often I start my phone and more for the night I have to start of the second time before it will actually start. So this should help. Anyway, thanks for the information. You are a funny man. I trust your judgment even if you make a mistake. By the way, I do think that crash detection is in the iPhone 14. Have a good one. Best, Les
Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 11, 2022, at 4:43 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Hello Les, > > I believe all iPhone 14 models have crash detection, but then again, we are > well into the second half of 2022 and I could be wrong for the first time > this year 🤣 > Having said this and even if that is correct, I can totally see why you would > want a pro phone this time around. I can't remember what you have now, but if > you have an iPhone 12 or later whether Pro or not, the 14 Pro really is the > only thing worth upgrading to. If somebody had an iPhone 8 or older then of > course upgrading to a regular iPhone 14 would be a big improvement. > Of course there is always the Apple Watch 8, they also have crash detection > and especially if you don't have an Apple Watch you might really enjoy the > experience and even if you do have one and it's not a 7th Gen, you could get > crash detection for a lot less money than the cost of an iPhone 14 Pro. There > is also the thing about what you have access to should you, hopefully never > the case, have a car crash. It is more likely your Apple Watch will be on > your wrist and accessible should you be in a position where you can talk to > emergency services whereas your iPhone could be tossed anywhere unless you > have it securely in a pocket or belt holster. > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Les > Kriegler > Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2022 1:00 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: RE: Does iPhone 14 have Lidar capability? > > Hi Sieghard, > I'm glad you mentioned the crash detection feature. That was the first item > that really grabbed my attention. My wife still drives, but I can tell you as > we age, safety is of primary concern. I hope we never have to use it, but you > just never know. In my case, that feature alone makes the Pro worth the > upgrade, along with the other benefits already mentioned on this list.' > Best, > > Les > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of > Sieghard Weitzel > Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2022 1:28 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: RE: Does iPhone 14 have Lidar capability? > > As always people will upgrade whether they have to or not. And let's not > forget there are many who still have phones like the iPhone 8, X, XS or XR > and if they wish to upgrade this year simply because their phones are getting > old then any iPhone 14 whether Pro or not is still a good choice. For sighted > people who drive even just the crash detection feature can be a good > motivation, then there is a slightly larger battery, slightly improved camera > on the 14/14 Plus and big time improved camera on the Pro models and the > emergency SOS via satellite which again for users who are off the grid a lot > could offer some peace of mind. > And anybody who doesn't think they need all that they can probably score a > good deal on an iPhone 13 come Black Friday. I am actually most likely going > to wait for that. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Dennis > Long > Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2022 2:22 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: RE: Does iPhone 14 have Lidar capability? > > The phones were terrible in my opinion they offered nothing. Hopefully they > will offer touch ID somewhere on all phones if they do that and the USBC than > I might get one but If they do little to nothing like they did this year I > think a lot of people won't upgrade. > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of > Sieghard Weitzel > Sent: Friday, September 9, 2022 3:24 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: RE: Does iPhone 14 have Lidar capability? > > From all I read the regular 14 and 14 Plus do not have LiDAR. > You'd be hard pressed to list 3 good reasons why somebody should upgrade from > an iPhone 13 to a 14 or even from an 11 or 12 to a 14. > I am actually quite underwhelmed with this years phones especially the > regular models which still have the A15 chip just like the 13 models from > last year. They say they improved the camera a bit and the front camera now > has auto focus so I guess if you are a selfie obsessed person that may be one > good reason. The emergency SOS via satellite is definitely a feature and a > good reason for people who go off the grid a lot and then that is about it. > I have a regular iPhone 11 which works great and for things like doing OCR, > recognizing currency or using other Seeing AI features I doubt you would be > able to notice an improvement between it and the iPhone 14 or even iPhone 14 > Pro. For sighted people who love taking tons of photos and are really into > good photography the 14 Pro definitely would be a great option, if you really > want to take advantage of door detection and maybe other features in various > apps which require the LiDAR sensor then you have also a very good reason for > the 14 Pro or Pro Max, but only if you don't already have a 12 Pro/Pro Max or > 13 Pro/Pro Max which already have the LiDAR sensor as well. > > I had my call from Telus, my provider in Canada today and I could have > upgraded to an iPhone 14 Pro 128 Gb for $30/month over 24 months and then I > would have to give the phone back to them or buy out that option for $560. > This means that over 2 years I would have paid $720 and if I then wanted to > keep the phone I'd have to buy it out for $560 so in total I would pay > $1,280. I can go to the Apple Store and buy a new iPhone 14 Pro 128 Gb in > Canada for $1,399 so I guess doing the deal with Telus may save me $100 or > $120, but not a huge difference. AS for trade-in, Telus said they would give > me $200 for my iPhone 11 64 Gb which is laughable because I know I could > easily get $500 for it if I put it up for sale now privately. > So I will just wait and see what happens for a while, if the iPhone 14 and 14 > Pro phones aren't accepted as much as Apple may hope they are you may soon > find stores, carriers and maybe even Apple offering extra deals and Black > Friday is only just over 2 months off. I am of course somewhat tempted to get > an iPhone 14 Pro because I like the idea of the MagSafe charging where a > slight bump or pull on the Earpods wouldn't dislodge the phone from its > charging position on the wireless charging pad and you can get external > batteries like that new Anker 622 MagGo which has 5,000 Mah capacity and it > snaps onto the back of the phone without covering the camera opening, but > I'll just wait a bit longer. Once the new phones are regularly available they > may even be sold by my credit card rewards program and I have plenty of > points and if not then I know for sure they have $500 Apple Store or Best Buy > gift cards which I could order and then use to buy one. I know for sure that > if I had a MagSafe capable phone like a 12 or 13 series phone I'd have 0 > incentive to get a 14. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of > Richard Turner > Sent: Friday, September 9, 2022 9:31 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: RE: Does iPhone 14 have Lidar capability? > > As far as I know, LIDAR is still only on the pro and pro max models. > > One could call Apple to double check, but I was surprised they didn't mention > anything about it especially with the door detection feature that is > apparently coming in iOS 16, but of course, Wednesday's presentation was > focused on hardware, not software. > > > > Richard > “People demand freedom of speech as a compensation for the freedom of thought > which they seldom use.” - Søren Kierkegaard > > My web site: https://www.turner42.com > 🦅 > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Cris > Ali > Sent: Friday, September 9, 2022 8:57 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Does iPhone 14 have Lidar capability? > > the subject heading says it all. 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