I keep my phone in my pocket the only person who gets their hands on my phone it’s me.
Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 12, 2022, at 11:06 AM, Esther Levegnale <[email protected]> > wrote: > > Wow! What a terribly sneaky thing to do to you! I never put in Face ID, > and was seriously thinking of doing that, but now that I read your post, I'll > stick to my pass code. However, what if someone sees me punching in the > numbers? Oops! That would be horrible if that happened. > > I feel so badly for you. > > Esther > > Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 13 Pro Max! > >>> On Sep 12, 2022, at 4:50 AM, [email protected] wrote: >>> >> Kind of a sneaky thing to do behind your back. I'd have been pissed as well. >> >> Chris Judge >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of M. >> Taylor >> Sent: September 11, 2022 11:43 PM >> To: [email protected] >> Cc: [email protected] >> Subject: RE: Does iPhone 14 have Lidar capability? >> >> You make an excellent point, Donna; you really do. >> >> Theft is a real risk to those of us who are blind or low vision. >> >> Not long ago, I was sitting on a couch next to a friend of mine and she >> picked up my 11 and pointed it at my face and unlocked my phone because she >> wanted to make a quick check of the weather; I saw her lift up the phone >> but, thinking it was my beloved 8 Plus, I forgot that she could unlock the >> device by simply pointing it towards me. >> >> It was truly unsettling and I got angry, to say the least. >> >> I remember thinking, "what if I had not had enough vision to see her pick up >> my phone?" Wow! >> >> I just don't like Face ID!!!!! >> >> Mark >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of >> Donna Casteen >> Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2022 12:25 PM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: Does iPhone 14 have Lidar capability? >> >> I actually believe fingerprint unlock to be more secure than facial >> IDespecially for a blind person anyway. If a theif should slip our phone out >> of our pocket, purse etc or grab our phone from our hand, they could lock >> the phone, turn the phone back on & point the camera at our face all within >> 15sec. It would take most people half this time to realize what just >> happened & to react. But oh well, facial ID is what Apple "thinks" to be >> more secure. >> >> Donna >> >>> >>> I've been using touch ID since I got my iPhone 11. I don't think it's new, >>> and I don't think it's hard to use as a blind person, but I do prefer touch >>> ID. I find it more reliable for me. I also find touch ID to be more >>> convenient. There are just times I want to unlock my phone without having >>> to put it in front of my face. Sometimes blind people can just prefer a >>> feature without it having to be all about their blindness or their >>> unwillingness to learn something new. >>> >>> -- >>> Christopher (AKA CJ) >>> Chaltain at Outlook >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of >>> Mary Otten >>> Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2022 1:56 PM >>> To: [email protected] >>> Subject: Re: Does iPhone 14 have Lidar capability? >>> >>> I agree with whoever it was that said when they first got a phone with Face >>> ID, it was a little bit tricky. But I’ve had my 10 R now for some time, and >>> Face ID works just as reliably as touch ID. I have an old 7+ with touch ID. >>> And I have to use my pass code on that just about as often as I do on the >>> 10r. I think people make a big deal out of it because it’s new and they >>> think it’s hard if you’re blind. It isn’t. It does take getting used to, >>> but so do those gestures where you have to slide up from the bottom or down >>> from the top. Try it. Put your toe in the water, and you’ll find out it’s >>> not that big of a deal. >>> >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>>>> On Sep 10, 2022, at 10:26 PM, M. Taylor <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hello Dennis and Everyone, >>>> >>>> Dennis I completely agree with your sentiment. >>>> >>>> I was completely underwhelmed, at best, and absolutely disappointed, at >>>> worst, with iPhone release this time around. >>>> >>>> I was hoping for some form of TouchID but, not gonna happen. >>>> >>>> Removing the SIM tray on the US models is somewhat concerning as A T & T >>>> Wireless has had some problems with Activating and maintaining the account >>>> settings when eSim is activated. This is according to several articles >>>> I've read, recently. >>>> >>>> I just don't know, I just don't know. >>>> >>>> I have been trying to get used to FaceID via iPhone 11 but am definitely >>>> going to miss Touch ID. >>>> >>>> Be that as it may, I plan to get an iPhone 14 Pro Max; not in the first >>>> couple of months; figure I'll give carriers and Apple time to break in the >>>> new models (smile), specifically eSIM activation but I am on the path to >>>> iPhone 14. >>>> >>>> Mark >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of >>>> Dennis Long >>>> Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2022 2:22 AM >>>> To: [email protected] >>>> Subject: RE: Does iPhone 14 have Lidar capability? >>>> >>>> The phones were terrible in my opinion they offered nothing. Hopefully >>>> they will offer touch ID somewhere on all phones if they do that and the >>>> USBC than I might get one but If they do little to nothing like they did >>>> this year I think a lot of people won't upgrade. >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of >>>> Sieghard Weitzel >>>> Sent: Friday, September 9, 2022 3:24 PM >>>> To: [email protected] >>>> Subject: RE: Does iPhone 14 have Lidar capability? >>>> >>>> From all I read the regular 14 and 14 Plus do not have LiDAR. >>>> You'd be hard pressed to list 3 good reasons why somebody should upgrade >>>> from an iPhone 13 to a 14 or even from an 11 or 12 to a 14. >>>> I am actually quite underwhelmed with this years phones especially the >>>> regular models which still have the A15 chip just like the 13 models from >>>> last year. They say they improved the camera a bit and the front camera >>>> now has auto focus so I guess if you are a selfie obsessed person that may >>>> be one good reason. The emergency SOS via satellite is definitely a >>>> feature and a good reason for people who go off the grid a lot and then >>>> that is about it. >>>> I have a regular iPhone 11 which works great and for things like doing >>>> OCR, recognizing currency or using other Seeing AI features I doubt you >>>> would be able to notice an improvement between it and the iPhone 14 or >>>> even iPhone 14 Pro. For sighted people who love taking tons of photos and >>>> are really into good photography the 14 Pro definitely would be a great >>>> option, if you really want to take advantage of door detection and maybe >>>> other features in various apps which require the LiDAR sensor then you >>>> have also a very good reason for the 14 Pro or Pro Max, but only if you >>>> don't already have a 12 Pro/Pro Max or 13 Pro/Pro Max which already have >>>> the LiDAR sensor as well. >>>> >>>> I had my call from Telus, my provider in Canada today and I could have >>>> upgraded to an iPhone 14 Pro 128 Gb for $30/month over 24 months and then >>>> I would have to give the phone back to them or buy out that option for >>>> $560. This means that over 2 years I would have paid $720 and if I then >>>> wanted to keep the phone I'd have to buy it out for $560 so in total I >>>> would pay $1,280. I can go to the Apple Store and buy a new iPhone 14 Pro >>>> 128 Gb in Canada for $1,399 so I guess doing the deal with Telus may save >>>> me $100 or $120, but not a huge difference. AS for trade-in, Telus said >>>> they would give me $200 for my iPhone 11 64 Gb which is laughable because >>>> I know I could easily get $500 for it if I put it up for sale now >>>> privately. >>>> So I will just wait and see what happens for a while, if the iPhone 14 and >>>> 14 Pro phones aren't accepted as much as Apple may hope they are you may >>>> soon find stores, carriers and maybe even Apple offering extra deals and >>>> Black Friday is only just over 2 months off. I am of course somewhat >>>> tempted to get an iPhone 14 Pro because I like the idea of the MagSafe >>>> charging where a slight bump or pull on the Earpods wouldn't dislodge the >>>> phone from its charging position on the wireless charging pad and you can >>>> get external batteries like that new Anker 622 MagGo which has 5,000 Mah >>>> capacity and it snaps onto the back of the phone without covering the >>>> camera opening, but I'll just wait a bit longer. Once the new phones are >>>> regularly available they may even be sold by my credit card rewards >>>> program and I have plenty of points and if not then I know for sure they >>>> have $500 Apple Store or Best Buy gift cards which I could order and then >>>> use to buy one. I know for sure that if I had a MagSafe capable phone like >>>> a 12 or 13 series phone I'd have 0 incentive to get a 14. >>>> >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of >>>> Richard Turner >>>> Sent: Friday, September 9, 2022 9:31 AM >>>> To: [email protected] >>>> Subject: RE: Does iPhone 14 have Lidar capability? >>>> >>>> As far as I know, LIDAR is still only on the pro and pro max models. >>>> >>>> One could call Apple to double check, but I was surprised they didn't >>>> mention anything about it especially with the door detection feature that >>>> is apparently coming in iOS 16, but of course, Wednesday's presentation >>>> was focused on hardware, not software. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Richard >>>> “People demand freedom of speech as a compensation for the freedom of >>>> thought which they seldom use.” - Søren Kierkegaard >>>> >>>> My web site: >>>> https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2F&data=05%7C01%7C%7Cec9ec4fa77eb4872341508da94273b0a%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637985193460891317%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=vh8WsywnziXIPzPVVi9Hy3ZIlZ9gHkP5jnHRItp6JGw%3D&reserved=0 >>>> 🦅 >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of >>>> Cris Ali >>>> Sent: Friday, September 9, 2022 8:57 AM >>>> To: [email protected] >>>> Subject: Does iPhone 14 have Lidar capability? >>>> >>>> the subject heading says it all. I did not hear any mention of Lidar in >>>> apple’s presentation on wednesday. I have Xr, and the only insentive for >>>> me to upgrade would be Lidar. Does anyone know? >>>> Cheers >>>> >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPad >>>> >>>> -- >>>> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone >>>> list. >>>> >>>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or >>>> if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the >>>> owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >>>> >>>> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: >>>> [email protected]. 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