I'm with you there, 100%. I am way not above allowing someone to use my phone, but someone I know, and in a situation that I more or les control, as far as the phone is concerned. I am not in the habit of leaving mine lying out other than sometimes at home.
-----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Les Kriegler Sent: Monday, September 12, 2022 1:50 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Does iPhone 14 have Lidar capability? Caroline, don’t get me wrong, if somebody wishes to use my phone and they ask me and tell me why they want to use it, I will allow it. But I make that choice. I would never leave my phone sitting on a table. Too many people can pick it up and do things to it. We have a granddaughter and my wife’s phone gets picked up by her all the time and God knows what happens when she does that. But, I’m not gonna worry about that. Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 12, 2022, at 1:44 PM, Carolyn <[email protected]> wrote: > > Yes, that is bullying to the nth degree, and I'd have a kinniption. > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of > Les Kriegler > Sent: Monday, September 12, 2022 12:08 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: Does iPhone 14 have Lidar capability? > > Well that stated. With all due respect, people that feel anyway they want to > buy face ID. But that is not in my opinion the issue here this year is Mark‘s > friend. I’d be furious if anybody picked up my phone and unlock it. That’s > over the top. > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Sep 12, 2022, at 12:05 PM, Star Gazer <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > Yes, I keep mine in direct > contact with my body. Also turning the screen curtain saves battery life, > everything still works, just the display is dark which seems to drive people > who can see absolutely crazy. > > > > From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Les > Kriegler > Sent: Monday, September 12, 2022 11:41 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: Does iPhone 14 have Lidar capability? > > > > I keep my phone in my pocket the only person who gets their hands on my > phone it’s me. > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > > > On Sep 12, 2022, at 11:06 AM, Esther Levegnale > <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > wrote: > > Wow! What a terribly sneaky thing to do to you! I never put in Face > ID, and was seriously thinking of doing that, but now that I read your post, > I'll stick to my pass code. However, what if someone sees me punching in the > numbers? Oops! That would be horrible if that happened. > > > > I feel so badly for you. > > > > Esther > > Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 13 Pro Max! > > > > > > On Sep 12, 2022, at 4:50 AM, [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]> wrote: > > Kind of a sneaky thing to do behind your back. I'd have been > pissed as well. > > Chris Judge > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > On Behalf Of M. > Taylor > Sent: September 11, 2022 11:43 PM > To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > Cc: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > Subject: RE: Does iPhone 14 have Lidar capability? > > You make an excellent point, Donna; you really do. > > Theft is a real risk to those of us who are blind or low vision. > > Not long ago, I was sitting on a couch next to a friend of mine > and she picked up my 11 and pointed it at my face and unlocked my phone > because she wanted to make a quick check of the weather; I saw her lift up > the phone but, thinking it was my beloved 8 Plus, I forgot that she could > unlock the device by simply pointing it towards me. > > It was truly unsettling and I got angry, to say the least. > > I remember thinking, "what if I had not had enough vision to see > her pick up my phone?" Wow! > > I just don't like Face ID!!!!! > > Mark > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > On Behalf Of > Donna Casteen > Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2022 12:25 PM > To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > Subject: Re: Does iPhone 14 have Lidar capability? > > I actually believe fingerprint unlock to be more secure than > facial IDespecially for a blind person anyway. If a theif should slip our > phone out of our pocket, purse etc or grab our phone from our hand, they > could lock the phone, turn the phone back on & point the camera at our face > all within 15sec. It would take most people half this time to realize what > just happened & to react. But oh well, facial ID is what Apple "thinks" to be > more secure. > > Donna > > > > > > > I've been using touch ID since I got my iPhone 11. I don't > think it's new, and I don't think it's hard to use as a blind person, but I > do prefer touch ID. I find it more reliable for me. I also find touch ID to > be more convenient. There are just times I want to unlock my phone without > having to put it in front of my face. Sometimes blind people can just prefer > a feature without it having to be all about their blindness or their > unwillingness to learn something new. > > > > -- > > Christopher (AKA CJ) > > Chaltain at Outlook > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]> <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]> > On Behalf Of Mary Otten > > Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2022 1:56 PM > > To: [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]> > > Subject: Re: Does iPhone 14 have Lidar capability? > > > > I agree with whoever it was that said when they first got a > phone with Face ID, it was a little bit tricky. But I’ve had my 10 R now for > some time, and Face ID works just as reliably as touch ID. I have an old 7+ > with touch ID. And I have to use my pass code on that just about as often as > I do on the 10r. I think people make a big deal out of it because it’s new > and they think it’s hard if you’re blind. It isn’t. It does take getting used > to, but so do those gestures where you have to slide up from the bottom or > down from the top. Try it. Put your toe in the water, and you’ll find out > it’s not that big of a deal. > > > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > On Sep 10, 2022, at 10:26 PM, M. Taylor <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > Hello Dennis and Everyone, > > > > Dennis I completely agree with your sentiment. > > > > I was completely underwhelmed, at best, and absolutely > disappointed, at worst, with iPhone release this time around. > > > > I was hoping for some form of TouchID but, not gonna > happen. > > > > Removing the SIM tray on the US models is somewhat > concerning as A T & T Wireless has had some problems with Activating and > maintaining the account settings when eSim is activated. This is according > to several articles I've read, recently. > > > > I just don't know, I just don't know. > > > > I have been trying to get used to FaceID via iPhone 11 but > am definitely going to miss Touch ID. > > > > Be that as it may, I plan to get an iPhone 14 Pro Max; not > in the first couple of months; figure I'll give carriers and Apple time to > break in the new models (smile), specifically eSIM activation but I am on the > path to iPhone 14. > > > > Mark > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]> <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]> > On Behalf Of Dennis Long > > Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2022 2:22 AM > > To: [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]> > > Subject: RE: Does iPhone 14 have Lidar capability? > > > > The phones were terrible in my opinion they offered > nothing. Hopefully they will offer touch ID somewhere on all phones if they > do that and the USBC than I might get one but If they do little to nothing > like they did this year I think a lot of people won't upgrade. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]> <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]> > On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel > > Sent: Friday, September 9, 2022 3:24 PM > > To: [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]> > > Subject: RE: Does iPhone 14 have Lidar capability? > > > > From all I read the regular 14 and 14 Plus do not have > LiDAR. > > You'd be hard pressed to list 3 good reasons why somebody > should upgrade from an iPhone 13 to a 14 or even from an 11 or 12 to a 14. > > I am actually quite underwhelmed with this years phones > especially the regular models which still have the A15 chip just like the 13 > models from last year. They say they improved the camera a bit and the front > camera now has auto focus so I guess if you are a selfie obsessed person that > may be one good reason. The emergency SOS via satellite is definitely a > feature and a good reason for people who go off the grid a lot and then that > is about it. > > I have a regular iPhone 11 which works great and for > things like doing OCR, recognizing currency or using other Seeing AI features > I doubt you would be able to notice an improvement between it and the iPhone > 14 or even iPhone 14 Pro. For sighted people who love taking tons of photos > and are really into good photography the 14 Pro definitely would be a great > option, if you really want to take advantage of door detection and maybe > other features in various apps which require the LiDAR sensor then you have > also a very good reason for the 14 Pro or Pro Max, but only if you don't > already have a 12 Pro/Pro Max or 13 Pro/Pro Max which already have the LiDAR > sensor as well. > > > > I had my call from Telus, my provider in Canada today and > I could have upgraded to an iPhone 14 Pro 128 Gb for $30/month over 24 months > and then I would have to give the phone back to them or buy out that option > for $560. This means that over 2 years I would have paid $720 and if I then > wanted to keep the phone I'd have to buy it out for $560 so in total I would > pay $1,280. I can go to the Apple Store and buy a new iPhone 14 Pro 128 Gb in > Canada for $1,399 so I guess doing the deal with Telus may save me $100 or > $120, but not a huge difference. AS for trade-in, Telus said they would give > me $200 for my iPhone 11 64 Gb which is laughable because I know I could > easily get $500 for it if I put it up for sale now privately. > > So I will just wait and see what happens for a while, if > the iPhone 14 and 14 Pro phones aren't accepted as much as Apple may hope > they are you may soon find stores, carriers and maybe even Apple offering > extra deals and Black Friday is only just over 2 months off. I am of course > somewhat tempted to get an iPhone 14 Pro because I like the idea of the > MagSafe charging where a slight bump or pull on the Earpods wouldn't dislodge > the phone from its charging position on the wireless charging pad and you can > get external batteries like that new Anker 622 MagGo which has 5,000 Mah > capacity and it snaps onto the back of the phone without covering the camera > opening, but I'll just wait a bit longer. Once the new phones are regularly > available they may even be sold by my credit card rewards program and I have > plenty of points and if not then I know for sure they have $500 Apple Store > or Best Buy gift cards which I could order and then use to buy one. I know > for sure that if I had a MagSafe capable phone like a 12 or 13 series phone > I'd have 0 incentive to get a 14. > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]> <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]> > On Behalf Of Richard Turner > > Sent: Friday, September 9, 2022 9:31 AM > > To: [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]> > > Subject: RE: Does iPhone 14 have Lidar capability? > > > > As far as I know, LIDAR is still only on the pro and pro > max models. > > > > One could call Apple to double check, but I was surprised > they didn't mention anything about it especially with the door detection > feature that is apparently coming in iOS 16, but of course, Wednesday's > presentation was focused on hardware, not software. > > > > > > > > > > Richard > > “People demand freedom of speech as a compensation for the > freedom of thought which they seldom use.” - Søren Kierkegaard > > > > My web site: > https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2F&data=05%7C01%7C%7Cec9ec4fa77eb4872341508da94273b0a%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637985193460891317%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=vh8WsywnziXIPzPVVi9Hy3ZIlZ9gHkP5jnHRItp6JGw%3D&reserved=0 > > 🦅 > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]> <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]> > On Behalf Of Cris Ali > > Sent: Friday, September 9, 2022 8:57 AM > > To: [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]> > > Subject: Does iPhone 14 have Lidar capability? > > > > the subject heading says it all. 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