Just to let you know, on my SE 2020, any app I have open requires me to swipe twice to get to an area to either activate or close that particular app. So I’m getting mirror copies one is kind of a dead screen and announces phone and then I have to swipe to the right to get through other apps that they are open to get to a place where I can close anyone of them. So I’m getting duplicate window announcements as well. And that’s been true since the first 16 update. On average I might have three apps Open or four or five by accident open at any one time. Deirdre
Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 15, 2022, at 3:43 AM, Katrina Anderson <kanderson8...@sbcglobal.net> > wrote: > > > Thank you Sieghard so much! As soon as I read what you said about only > needing to hold in on the side button, I recalled being corrected about this > before. 😳 Ugh! My old brain is losing or mixing up information more and > more these days. ☹ Do you know if there was ever a time when we had to hold > in on both the down volume and side buttons? If not, where did I get that > from, and why can't I let it go? Anyway, after doing it correctly, the phone > did reset; no improvement with the app switcher, but at least for now, I only > need to double tap on notifications. > > FYI, I had tried resetting network settings; process carried out fine, but > again no improvement. Also, Siri won't reboot for me, no matter how I phrase > the request; the responses include something like I can't do that, I don't > understand, and BTW Siri doesn't speak those responses...I have to swipe to > read what is on the screen. Could Siri not cooperating with my request to > reboot, and the app switcher issue, be due to my having an older phone, an > iPhone 8? > > My iPhone 8 is not performing as well as I would like; huge issue is the > battery, so that is why I'm tempted to purchase the 14 Pro. I know you and > others recommend those with more current models wait to get a new phone next > year, but again the iPhone 8 is not performing well. I'm hesitating to make > the purchase as it seems like a huge challenge to deal with the IOS 16 > learning curve, changes due to no home button, configuring a new phone, etc. > When the Apple employee said people are "not able to access the app switcher > and control center when using voiceover", It caused me to back off. But, it > seems you and others aren't having that kind of problem so he probably was > mistaken, or I misheard him. Anyway, I guess I need to have faith all will > ultimately be fine and make the purchase, as I really need better performance > and because I wonder if a newer phone will function better with IOS 16. > > Until I make the purchase, fingers crossed that IOS 16.1 will remove some > annoyances. > > Katrina > -----Original Message----- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of > Sieghard Weitzel > Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2022 1:31 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: Strange issue with my app switcher > > Hello Katrina, > > First of all, it sounds to me like maybe something went not quite right with > your update because I have not heard of any issues with people being able to > power off their phone in the usual way, e.g. press volume up, press volume > down and then press and hold the side button for about a second or two until > the power off screen comes up. > You mention the "double tap to power off", "emergency call" and "cancel" > screen. Just FYI, there is no emergency call on that screen and hasn't been > for some time. > Also, you say to do a hard reset you press volume up and volume down and then > you hold volume down and the side button at the same time. I assume it is no > surprise that this won't force a hard reset because it is the wrong button > press combination. Yes, you press volume up followed by volume down, but then > all you do is press and hold the side button for maybe a 12 to 15 count > depending on how fast you count. > Also, in iOS 16 you can simply tell Siri "Reboot my phone", you will be asked > "Just to confirm, you want to restart this device", then you say "Yes" and > the phone reboots, nothing to press or do, just wait until the lockscreen > comes back up. > I have an iPhone 11 and while I am on the iOS 16.1 Beta after using the > official iOS 16 and 16.02 release for a short time, I don't recall the app > switcher issue to be present for every app, e.g. if you had 10 apps open if I > remember correctly only the last one was listed twice. > Anyways, I would highly recommend you maybe start with a simple reboot, if > that doesn't help try Settings > General > Reset and select "Reset Network > Settings. This will require you to re-enter your Wi-Fi password and name you > r phone again in Settings > General > About, but it can often have some quite > beneficial results. > If that also doesn't help make sure you have a backup and completely reset > your phone. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of > Katrina Anderson > Sent: Friday, October 14, 2022 5:59 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: Strange issue with my app switcher > > Yes, definitely having issues with the app switcher. I was forced to update > to 16.0.3 on my iPhone 8, in order to use my new airPods Pro. Many Things > have been challenging ever since. After entering the app switcher, it is > necessary to listen for "active" after the app name. If you just hear the > name of the app, keep swiping; if you have several apps open, this can be > frustrating and time consuming. > > I am so upset with what's happening with the notification center. Until > speaking with Apple Accessibility, I was unable to open notifications. I > could clear notifications but not open them. I read somewhere that "list" > should be selected in the notification settings, so I did that; there was no > change. I learned about a work around, and am grateful for it, but again it > is so frustrating. I have to double tap on a notification, quickly swipe > left to where I hear open, and then quickly double tap. And, I am not > kidding about the need to move quickly. This method has been working pretty > well until there was a reminder in the notification center; notifications > could only be removed after I cleared the reminder. > > I don't understand why, but I am unable to do a hard reset after the update. > After tapping the volume buttons (up and then down) and then holding in on > the down volume/side button for well over 30 seconds until my hands give out, > the screen with "double tap to power off", "emergency call" and "cancel" > remains and does not shut down/reset. I wanted to try the forced reset to > try and remedy the crazy behaviors; turns out, I don't think that would have > helped as others are experiencing the same issues. > > I'm wondering if my issues are related to my using the iPhone 8? It would be > interesting to know if similar issues occur on newer phones. I'm giving > serious thought to getting a 14 Pro, but I hear things aren't all that great > for users of that model and/or IOS 16.0.3. I am nervous about the > combination of dealing with learning to function without the home button and > at the same time dealing with IOS 16 issues. As part of my research and/or > decision making process as to whether to switch to the 14 Pro, while at the > Apple Store the other day, I tried to open the app switcher and control > center. I didn't get to play around for more than 5 minutes, but never had > success using the techniques described on this list. An employee said it may > be due to the device only being a model and not a fully functioning phone. > Another employee said they have 2 visually impaired employees on staff, but > both weren't in that day. He remarked that one of those employees mentioned > that there is a problem with accessing the app center via voiceover when > using IOS 16, and that perhaps that is why I didn't have success. > > Katrina > > -----Original Message----- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Barry > Abbott > Sent: Friday, October 14, 2022 7:13 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Strange issue with my app switcher > > Hello, all I noticed that when I open the app switcher there seems to be two > occurrences of the app. For example, if I had just mail open, I would hear > the word mail and then if I swipe to the right, it would say mail button and > then I can flick up and close it if I do not swipe to the second Word I can’t > close it. I wonder if anyone else is having this issue? 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