I thought the way battery optimization was supposed to work was that it would 
get to 80 percent and stop, and would only go on to 100 percent after learning 
your schedule, or every 24 hours, or whatever. Mine has never stopped at 80 
percent, neither has it refused to charge if I plug it in when it already is 
over 80 percent. I have always just figured that battery optimization just 
didn't work on the cheap phones, for whatever reason. I am not quite sure what 
is going on. Although I wouldn't want to leave my phone connected to power for 
days, I have always been a little skeptical about its being all that bad to 
leave it connected for hours. After all, it backs itself up while connected and 
the screen locked. 

Arnold Schmidt 


Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 3

On Dec 28, 2022, at 12:11 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <[email protected]> wrote:

Except mine has never done this, if I plug it in at 10:30 and let's say it's 
at 30% then if I check it a couple of hours later at Midnight or 1 AM it is 
always at 100%.

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Gordon
Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2022 1:02 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Charging Your New Phone, Anyone?

Well Apple says it's better if your phone doesn't just sit there at 100 percent 
all the time. the battery optimization is designed to keep this from happening. 
Lets say you go to sleep every night at 10:30 and plug your phone in and you 
wake up at 5:30. Your phone might reach 80 percent around 12:30. Then it will 
stop until around 4:45 or so where it will resume charging in order to be at 
100 by the time you wake up. If you use your phone more than usual and put it 
on the charger early, it would then charge all the way because the new schedule 
isn't recognized. so according to Apple, it's better if you don't keep your 
phone plugged in all the time. It would put your battery under unnecessary 
stress and could make your battery health degrade a little quicker.

On 12/27/2022 8:29 PM, M. Taylor wrote:
> Hi Gordon,
> 
> Thank you for your post.
> 
> So, if Apple added the optimized battery setting, then it would seem that 
> even when the phone is connected to a charger, it will not charge to 100% 
> even though the A/C current is available, or so I would think.  This would 
> lead me to believe that leaving the phone connected to a charger would have 
> no detrimental affect on the device.
> 
> Batteries, batteries, batteries.  It would seem that, even at the end of 
> 2022, they are still the weakest link in the technology food chain.  I don't 
> know; just a thought.
> 
> You know what?  In my mind, I think of batteries in the same way as I think 
> of printers; boring but necessary (smile).
> 
> Mark
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of 
> Gordon
> Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2022 5:13 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: Charging Your New Phone, Anyone?
> 
> It's not good to leave the charger connected all the time. This is why Apple 
> added that feature in battery settings called optimized charging.
> This learns your sleep habits and keeps your battery at 80 percent for 
> most of the night and kicks in and finishes charging up to 100 percent 
> before you wake up. Lithium ion batteries don't like stress. They are 
> under the most stress when fully charged at 100 percent and below 
> about
> 15 percent. So that's why Apple says keeping your battery between these 
> points is best for long life.
> 
> On 12/27/2022 5:59 PM, M. Taylor wrote:
>> Hello All,
>> 
>> Okay, based on my research I cannot find any Apple articles that 
>> discouraged leaving an iPhone 14 on a charger, when not in use.
>> 
>> You old-timers will recall that, once upon a time, it was recommended 
>> that one not leave a phone on a charger, when not in use, full-time.
>> It was thought that doing so would shorten the life of the battery.
>> 
>> I found an Apple community thread that discusses this and the 
>> conclusion is that leaving a 14 attached to a charger, when not in 
>> use, will, in no way damage or shorten the life of the battery.
>> 
>> Question:  Does anyone have any credible statements / sources to the 
>> contrary?  If so, please post them as this can make a difference to 
>> the life of the battery, in the long run.
>> 
>> Unlike in the past, I want to consider all aspects of keeping my 
>> iPhone battery healthy from the very beginning.
>> 
>> All replies greatly appreciated.
>> 
>> Mark
>> 
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