My understanding is the same as Chris's. https://www.lifewire.com/what-is-optimized-battery-charging-on-iphone-5210118#:~:text=Optimized%20Battery%20Charging%20helps%20to%20improve%20battery%20health,charger%20and%20delays%20charging%20to%20100%25%20until%20then.
-- Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷ Chaltain at Outlook, USA -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Chris Chaffin Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2022 11:53 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Charging Your New Phone, Anyone? Optimized battery charging does not stop charging your battery once it reaches 80%. Instead, it slows down the charging process, and tries to go by your past charging habits to time it reaching 100% as close to when you normally take it off the charger. So basically once it reaches 80%, it trickle charges slowly until it reaches 100%. This is how its always worked. Now me personally, I keep my battery between 25% and 85%, because this does help prolong the life of your battery. But I do this myself, it is nothing the battery optimization does for me. My iPhone 11 Pro that I used until last week still had a battery life of 100% after 3 years of use. In regards to the Battery optimization, here is an article from Apple Support explaining it. https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fsupport.apple.com%2Fen-us%2FHT210512&data=05%7C01%7C%7Cb9cf0bc2b0f045333c6d08dae8fc6629%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C638078467985407110%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=KTrSrLpxi6asikGks8pA12t65yVA1ZlIU8%2BOSRjJH98%3D&reserved=0 Hope this helps. Chris > On Dec 28, 2022, at 12:31 PM, Arnold Schmidt <[email protected]> wrote: > > I thought the way battery optimization was supposed to work was that it > would get to 80 percent and stop, and would only go on to 100 percent after > learning your schedule, or every 24 hours, or whatever. Mine has never > stopped at 80 percent, neither has it refused to charge if I plug it in when > it already is over 80 percent. I have always just figured that battery > optimization just didn't work on the cheap phones, for whatever reason. I am > not quite sure what is going on. Although I wouldn't want to leave my phone > connected to power for days, I have always been a little skeptical about its > being all that bad to leave it connected for hours. After all, it backs > itself up while connected and the screen locked. > > Arnold Schmidt > > > Sent from Arnold's iPhone S E 3 > > On Dec 28, 2022, at 12:11 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <[email protected]> wrote: > > Except mine has never done this, if I plug it in at 10:30 and let's say it's > at 30% then if I check it a couple of hours later at Midnight or 1 AM it is > always at 100%. > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of > Gordon > Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2022 1:02 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: Charging Your New Phone, Anyone? > > Well Apple says it's better if your phone doesn't just sit there at 100 > percent all the time. the battery optimization is designed to keep this from > happening. Lets say you go to sleep every night at 10:30 and plug your phone > in and you wake up at 5:30. Your phone might reach 80 percent around 12:30. > Then it will stop until around 4:45 or so where it will resume charging in > order to be at 100 by the time you wake up. If you use your phone more than > usual and put it on the charger early, it would then charge all the way > because the new schedule isn't recognized. so according to Apple, it's better > if you don't keep your phone plugged in all the time. It would put your > battery under unnecessary stress and could make your battery health degrade a > little quicker. > >> On 12/27/2022 8:29 PM, M. Taylor wrote: >> Hi Gordon, >> >> Thank you for your post. >> >> So, if Apple added the optimized battery setting, then it would seem that >> even when the phone is connected to a charger, it will not charge to 100% >> even though the A/C current is available, or so I would think. This would >> lead me to believe that leaving the phone connected to a charger would have >> no detrimental affect on the device. >> >> Batteries, batteries, batteries. It would seem that, even at the end of >> 2022, they are still the weakest link in the technology food chain. I don't >> know; just a thought. >> >> You know what? In my mind, I think of batteries in the same way as I think >> of printers; boring but necessary (smile). >> >> Mark >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf >> Of Gordon >> Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2022 5:13 PM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: Charging Your New Phone, Anyone? >> >> It's not good to leave the charger connected all the time. This is why Apple >> added that feature in battery settings called optimized charging. >> This learns your sleep habits and keeps your battery at 80 percent >> for most of the night and kicks in and finishes charging up to 100 >> percent before you wake up. Lithium ion batteries don't like stress. >> They are under the most stress when fully charged at 100 percent and >> below about >> 15 percent. So that's why Apple says keeping your battery between these >> points is best for long life. >> >>> On 12/27/2022 5:59 PM, M. Taylor wrote: >>> Hello All, >>> >>> Okay, based on my research I cannot find any Apple articles that >>> discouraged leaving an iPhone 14 on a charger, when not in use. >>> >>> You old-timers will recall that, once upon a time, it was >>> recommended that one not leave a phone on a charger, when not in use, >>> full-time. >>> It was thought that doing so would shorten the life of the battery. >>> >>> I found an Apple community thread that discusses this and the >>> conclusion is that leaving a 14 attached to a charger, when not in >>> use, will, in no way damage or shorten the life of the battery. >>> >>> Question: Does anyone have any credible statements / sources to the >>> contrary? If so, please post them as this can make a difference to >>> the life of the battery, in the long run. >>> >>> Unlike in the past, I want to consider all aspects of keeping my >>> iPhone battery healthy from the very beginning. >>> >>> All replies greatly appreciated. >>> >>> Mark >>> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or >> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: >> [email protected]. 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