I completely agree that this is possible, I'm just wondering whether an app like this, aimed at a relatively small audience and dealing with fairly small chunks of data, likely receiving crowd sourced answers from many different places, would go to the trouble of setting up location-based routing rules and routing data accordingly. Of course, it's possible and we could likely find out by monitoring the traffic that leaves our networks and then comparing them. Anyway, an interesting insight.
Grant On 2013-01-27, at 5:09 PM, David Chittenden <[email protected]> wrote: > Yes, routing to specific servers is entirely possible when location is known. > For instance, I am in New Zealand. Using a server in Australia is much better > than using a server in the US. If on the west coast of the US, there are lag > differences between the west coast and the east coast. I don't know much > about it, but a cousin who works in multinational corporate networking told > me a while ago that data flow routing and analytics is one of the larger > pieces of his job. A picture is anywhere from a few hundred KB to a few MB in > size, so data routing can become important, if you want to minimise delays > anyway. > > David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA > Email: [email protected] > Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 > Sent from my iPhone > > On 28/01/2013, at 13:55, Grant Hardy <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Could you elaborate on this, David? Sounds interesting but I can't imagine a >> plethora of algorithms would exist just to help route a picture over the >> internet slightly more efficiently depending on where you are. It seems more >> likely to me that location services are used for analytics, but I'm open and >> interested for you to elaborate on your message. A picture would be a tiny >> chunk of data and I'm not aware of any apps, even dat,-intensive ones, that >> use your location to slightly tweak data reliability. I mean, I guess maybe >> Tap Tap See could route to specific servers, but do you really think they do >> that? >> >> Grant >> >> On 2013-01-27, at 4:49 PM, David Chittenden <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Ah, so location services is most likely used to tell the servers how to >>> route your picture and response. This is probably also the case with >>> similar apps. Server routing can make a difference of several seconds. >>> Increase the distance and number of routing points increases time delays. >>> Knowing your general location (city, state, country) allows routing >>> routines to be most efficient. >>> >>> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA >>> Email: [email protected] >>> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On 28/01/2013, at 13:04, "Eileen Misrahi" <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> I decided to uninstall and then install the app again in order not to >>>> select >>>> "location services" on. It appears to me that the responses are somewhat >>>> slower than when the "location services" was turned on. However, I rather >>>> put up with the slower responsiveness, if it protects me. Has others seen a >>>> difference in the response rate when "location services" is turned off. I >>>> am >>>> just curious, as I can live with it. >>>> >>>> Thanks. >>>> >>>> Eileen >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf >>>> Of Vicky Collins >>>> Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2013 8:42 AM >>>> To: [email protected] >>>> Subject: Re: Tap Tap See Privacy Statement >>>> >>>> Looks like you may be right. They have a twitter account which I found at: >>>> >>>> https://mobile.twitter.com/taptapsee >>>> >>>> >>>> And, if one reads through the tweets there, they indicate a combination of >>>> database algorithm and crowdsourcing being used. >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "Lauren Simmons" <[email protected] >>>> To: <[email protected] >>>> Date sent: Fri, 25 Jan 2013 05:11:00 -0800 >>>> Subject: Re: Tap Tap See Privacy Statement >>>> >>>> I think TapTapSee is using some derivative of crowd sourcing to determine >>>> objects and other photo content. When experimenting with this app I >>>> noticed >>>> there weren't actual specifics given, just an overall description of the >>>> object. Furthermore, the information sent back to me was not consistent. >>>> In Tom's case below, I'm assuming a sighted person on the other end was >>>> able >>>> to read the billboard and convey the sign's content. Whatever you do, I >>>> say >>>> you make sure you do not send pictures of personal information such as mail >>>> and such which can be used to identify you. By the way, on initial >>>> installation I disabled location tracking and the app works just fine. >>>> >>>> LS >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "Thom" <[email protected] >>>> To: <[email protected] >>>> Sent: Friday, January 25, 2013 5:00 AM >>>> Subject: RE: Tap Tap See Privacy Statement >>>> >>>> >>>> Hi Grant, Cara, and others, >>>> Do you suppose that it uses the location tracking to help identify where >>>> you are? >>>> The other day, I was sitting in a car, in a parking lot of a store. I took >>>> a picture out the window, and tap tap see came back with "Big Lots Parking >>>> lot". >>>> Big lot's is the name of the store. I was thinking that it may have seen >>>> the big lots sign or logo. But after reading this, maybe it uses the >>>> location tracking information, seeing that I was at Big Lots. >>>> >>>> >>>> So, would we lose some of it's functionality by turning off location >>>> tracking? >>>> >>>> Side note... Cara, you've been too quiet, I miss seeing your posts and >>>> smiles. >>>> >>>> Thom >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf >>>> Of Grant Hardy >>>> Sent: Friday, January 25, 2013 1:38 AM >>>> To: [email protected] >>>> Subject: Re: Tap Tap See Privacy Statement >>>> >>>> >>>> I was just reading this today and was similarly surprised. One >>>> thing I >>>> would >>>> do right away is switch off location services for the app; I >>>> don't believe >>>> there's any advantage to you to leave them on. Actually, this >>>> is the case >>>> for a number of apps, including VizWiz. There's no tangible >>>> benefit to you >>>> to have location services on and in fact it probably has a small >>>> impact on >>>> battery life. >>>> >>>> Grant >>>> >>>> On 1/24/13, Cara Quinn <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> HI all, just downloaded Tap tap see and thought I'd share the >>>> privacy >>>> statement with the list. 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