Hi,

but those devices don't have built in GPS anyway.  I don't know, having to buy 
one of those GPS receivers that connects to your device sounds like a half 
measure at best to me.

Ricardo Walker
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On Mar 2, 2013, at 9:10 AM, erik burggraaf <[email protected]> wrote:

> Onboard maps are absolutely essential for the price point.  Many of my 
> clients who would most benefit from this are ipod users, or even IPad users 
> who bought their devices partially on the basis of not wanting to pay for 
> cell phone service.  So, this app is useless to them and that irritates me.
> 
> Best,
> 
> Erik Burggraaf
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> On 2013-03-02, at 8:55 AM, Sieghard Weitzel <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> Hi John,
>> 
>> Which maps do you mean when you say the "actual maps on the phone"? If you
>> refer to the native Maps app from Apple then those maps are not on your
>> phone, either. They are stored on Apple Servers and your phone uses data to
>> retrieve information from then just as Sendero will. One of the few GPS apps
>> which downloads maps to your phone is Navigon. Having maps in the cloud is
>> for the most part OK, where it does cause a problem is if you are travelling
>> to other countries where maybe you don't have a local SIM along with a data
>> plan or if you are outside of cell coverage. Most people who live in cities
>> and areas with lots of population may not understand how you can be out of
>> cell coverage, maybe they are aware of areas with a poor signal, but don't
>> have to deal with large regions or stretches of road where there is no cell
>> signal at all. People in rural areas especially in Canada are used to this,
>> here in BC we have highways up North where you can sometimes drive for
>> hundreds of miles with no cell signal. The town of Deas Lake in northern BC
>> which has a population of about 1,000 has absolutely no cell coverage within
>> 400 miles in any direction. Of course people don't need a GPS to find their
>> way around Dease Lake *smile*, but I was just making a point how for a
>> visitor having maps on the phone can certainly be of great value.
>> 
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Sieghard
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf
>> Of John Gallagher
>> Sent: Saturday, March 02, 2013 5:14 AM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: Re: Summary of Seeing Eye app presentation at CSUN
>> 
>> Hi Mary trouble it is the maps that incur the costs I cannot 
>> understand why the actual maps on the phone cannot be used.
>> 
>> so with blind square do you need four square as well for the poi data?
>> I did try blind over hear in the uk and it did seem to work great.#
>> cheers then.
>> At 13:09 02/03/2013, you wrote:
>>> Hi, Keith,
>>> 
>>> I'm with you.  I will never spend $100 on any app that I will only 
>>> be able to use for a year or two.  If this is the way things end up, 
>>> I will donate $100 to Blind Square so they can develop turn by turn
>> navigation.
>>> 
>>> Mary
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Mar 1, 2013, at 7:23 PM, Keith Watson wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Point 3 just killed any hope of this app for me. If I purchase an 
>>> app for $100 and its only good for a year? Dream on! I would rather 
>>> donate $100 to blind square.
>>>> 
>>>> Keith
>>>> 
>>>> On Mar 1, 2013, at 7:17 PM, Richard Turner 
>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> 1: The maps are online. The app is using the Mapquest engine.
>>>>> 2: No virtual mode when the app is released, but it may be added 
>>> later based on user feedback.
>>>>> 3: The cost is likely to be around 100 dollars. It is not 
>>> decided if that will be for one year or three years.
>>>>> 4: When asked for a release date, Mike May said their target was 
>>> last August. So he is not giving a release date. The impression I 
>>> had is it will be released when it is ready and it is not clear 
>>> when that might be.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Others who listened in may have more to say. If you have more 
>>> questions about the app, you may want to contact Sendero Group, 
>>> their web site is:
>>>>> www.senderogroup.com
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Richard
>>>>> (Sent from Richard's iPod Touch 5th gen)
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