I disagree, as a former mobile geo user having tested internal vs external receivers, I believe I personally would want a receiver for my phone, even if it had one built in.
External receivers increase battery life accuracy and gps performance. Every inch of accuracy you can eak out of a GPS is worth it for blind users. Then there is the cost of IPhone plans which many of my clients have no need to pay. Even if they are stuck paying for a $130 gps receiver, they still save thousands on the cost of buying an IPhone or buying into a 3 year contract. There's no use at all paying that kind of money if you don't want or need a cell phone. Best, Erik Burggraaf Follow my series of articles about setting up a small business through the ontario disability support program at http://www.erik-burggraaf.com/blog Ebony Consulting toll-free: 1-888-255-5194 or on the web at http://www.erik-burggraaf.com On 2013-03-02, at 12:21 PM, Ricardo Walker <rwalker...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi, > > but those devices don't have built in GPS anyway. I don't know, having to > buy one of those GPS receivers that connects to your device sounds like a > half measure at best to me. > > Ricardo Walker > rica...@appletothecore.info > Twitter:@apple2thecore > www.appletothecore.info > > On Mar 2, 2013, at 9:10 AM, erik burggraaf <e...@erik-burggraaf.com> wrote: > >> Onboard maps are absolutely essential for the price point. Many of my >> clients who would most benefit from this are ipod users, or even IPad users >> who bought their devices partially on the basis of not wanting to pay for >> cell phone service. So, this app is useless to them and that irritates me. >> >> Best, >> >> Erik Burggraaf >> Follow my series of articles about setting up a small business through the >> ontario disability support program at http://www.erik-burggraaf.com/blog >> Ebony Consulting toll-free: 1-888-255-5194 >> or on the web at http://www.erik-burggraaf.com >> >> On 2013-03-02, at 8:55 AM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote: >> >>> Hi John, >>> >>> Which maps do you mean when you say the "actual maps on the phone"? If you >>> refer to the native Maps app from Apple then those maps are not on your >>> phone, either. They are stored on Apple Servers and your phone uses data to >>> retrieve information from then just as Sendero will. One of the few GPS apps >>> which downloads maps to your phone is Navigon. Having maps in the cloud is >>> for the most part OK, where it does cause a problem is if you are travelling >>> to other countries where maybe you don't have a local SIM along with a data >>> plan or if you are outside of cell coverage. Most people who live in cities >>> and areas with lots of population may not understand how you can be out of >>> cell coverage, maybe they are aware of areas with a poor signal, but don't >>> have to deal with large regions or stretches of road where there is no cell >>> signal at all. People in rural areas especially in Canada are used to this, >>> here in BC we have highways up North where you can sometimes drive for >>> hundreds of miles with no cell signal. The town of Deas Lake in northern BC >>> which has a population of about 1,000 has absolutely no cell coverage within >>> 400 miles in any direction. Of course people don't need a GPS to find their >>> way around Dease Lake *smile*, but I was just making a point how for a >>> visitor having maps on the phone can certainly be of great value. >>> >>> >>> Regards, >>> Sieghard >>> >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf >>> Of John Gallagher >>> Sent: Saturday, March 02, 2013 5:14 AM >>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>> Subject: Re: Summary of Seeing Eye app presentation at CSUN >>> >>> Hi Mary trouble it is the maps that incur the costs I cannot >>> understand why the actual maps on the phone cannot be used. >>> >>> so with blind square do you need four square as well for the poi data? >>> I did try blind over hear in the uk and it did seem to work great.# >>> cheers then. >>> At 13:09 02/03/2013, you wrote: >>>> Hi, Keith, >>>> >>>> I'm with you. I will never spend $100 on any app that I will only >>>> be able to use for a year or two. If this is the way things end up, >>>> I will donate $100 to Blind Square so they can develop turn by turn >>> navigation. >>>> >>>> Mary >>>> >>>> >>>> On Mar 1, 2013, at 7:23 PM, Keith Watson wrote: >>>> >>>>> Point 3 just killed any hope of this app for me. If I purchase an >>>> app for $100 and its only good for a year? Dream on! I would rather >>>> donate $100 to blind square. >>>>> >>>>> Keith >>>>> >>>>> On Mar 1, 2013, at 7:17 PM, Richard Turner >>>> <richard.turne...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> 1: The maps are online. The app is using the Mapquest engine. >>>>>> 2: No virtual mode when the app is released, but it may be added >>>> later based on user feedback. >>>>>> 3: The cost is likely to be around 100 dollars. It is not >>>> decided if that will be for one year or three years. >>>>>> 4: When asked for a release date, Mike May said their target was >>>> last August. So he is not giving a release date. The impression I >>>> had is it will be released when it is ready and it is not clear >>>> when that might be. >>>>>> >>>>>> Others who listened in may have more to say. 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